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EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/9/10 3:34 p.m.
sachilles wrote: Probably something went wrong at the mythbusters lab.

That was the first thing I thought of.

JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/9/10 4:03 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: Doesn't look like the "Aurora" contrail either:

Interesting. I would not describe that as "doughnuts on a rope" It is definitely a better photo than the ones I have seen before

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
11/9/10 4:39 p.m.

"Cotton Balls on a String" is what "I heard" for the new airplane that doesn't exist. I also heard "pulse jet" and "external combustion." Fox has a pic of the con trail on foxnews.com.

You can't tell me that Vandyland doesn't have full digital backups of every bird and bug in the air around that base. Uh, back up the vid, doode. Yup, launched from right here.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Reader
11/9/10 4:55 p.m.

Bet you it was posturing with a SLBM. When is the last time we let something like that off. The cold war.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
11/9/10 6:46 p.m.

This thing is wacky. Really, they don't know what it is? CBS just said they think it's an amateur rocket or a plane. Uh, a plane?

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
11/9/10 7:05 p.m.
Woody wrote: I used to work with a guy who was into model rocketry. *Seriously* into it. As in, six foot tall, 5 inch diameter tubes. He needed to notify the FAA before a launch. It may have been a reckless hobbyist who failed to tell anyone about his plans.

[This!/i]

JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/9/10 7:08 p.m.

My guess:
- We know exactly what it is, because it is ours.

  • It was saber rattling via a test.

  • We don't need to announce it, because the foreign power the message was intended for clearly got the message.

  • We know, because of "signals intelligence" (eavesdropping) that they got the message

Derick Freese
Derick Freese HalfDork
11/9/10 8:09 p.m.

Italics tag end<~~~ Looks like someone forgot one of those or something.

tuna55
tuna55 Dork
11/9/10 9:32 p.m.
Derick Freese wrote: Italics tag end<~~~ Looks like someone forgot one of those or something.

I used to think that the all powerful combo of air force, FAA and various other secret ops had the entire sky under complete wraps. Like a lot of people here said, pictures of everything, radar recordings of everything. They've easily got the tech and they've got the laws to make it all legal.

And then a plane smashed into the Pentagon a few minutes after a couple of other planes smashed into two large towers. No strange looking next-gen fighter jets scrambled out of nowhere at breakneck speeds to intercept. No anti aircraft guns popped out of the ground. No mysterious, silent black helicopters flew over and decimated the errant crafts. It was then that I realized that instead of being an overbearing masterful group of shady folks taking over the planet slowly, our defense department(s) acting as a whole is just like a big dumb bozo that can't get out of its own way.

I have no doubt that the people asked have no idea what's going on. Even if it came from their own base, on schedule and according to plan. I doubt it was a missile, though, those things don't hang out long enough to get photographed, and from what I understand, don't typically leave trails.

tuna55
tuna55 Dork
11/9/10 9:33 p.m.
Derick Freese wrote: Italics tag end<~~~ Looks like someone forgot one of those or something.

Seriously have no idea how that happened. No italics tags anywhere in my post. I deleted it and started again.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/9/10 10:29 p.m.

What scares me is the apparent lack of interest in it by the govt and armed forces. The fact that they "appear" to be so clueless and unconcerned says there's a lot they don't want us to know.

I think it's official and I've now become a conspiracy theorist.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/10/10 12:54 a.m.
914Driver wrote: I've been on Submarine ops in the Atlantic, generally we didn't do it so close to land. What are the odds a flight from NYC to Paris gets tagged if you launch close to JFK. I agree with Dave.

Didn't you get the memo? It was a short in the gas tank. Everyone who saw something else, please look at my pen

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
11/10/10 5:31 a.m.

I wonder if its not one of those big ass model rockets..

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
11/10/10 6:32 a.m.

Picked up elsewhere...
Detailed explanation of contrails.
http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-4

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/10/10 7:48 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: I also heard "pulse jet" and "external combustion."

Pulse detonation wave to be precise

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
11/10/10 8:30 a.m.
jrw1621 wrote: Picked up elsewhere... Detailed explanation of contrails. http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-4

I've seen exactly this before. Wife an I actually pulled over to try and figure it out. It looked like a rocket. Only after many minutes did we realize it was simply an airliner flying towards us.

Joey

ansonivan
ansonivan HalfDork
11/10/10 9:15 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: "Cotton Balls on a String" is what "I heard" for the new airplane that doesn't exist. I also heard "pulse jet" and "external combustion."
Woody wrote: It may have been a reckless hobbyist who failed to tell anyone about his plans.
  • crackpot mad scientist invents a new form of propulsion
  • nobody will listens to CMS' wild idea because he smells like a dirty microwave
  • CMS says 'eff you guys' and builds a prototype
  • 20 minutes after launch our clever crackpot is hired by the man
Duke
Duke SuperDork
11/10/10 9:18 a.m.
ansonivan wrote: - crackpot mad scientist invents a new form of propulsion - nobody will listens to CMS' wild idea because he smells like a dirty microwave - CMS says 'eff you guys' and builds a prototype - 20 minutes after launch our clever crackpot is made to quietly disappear by the man

FTFY.

YaNi
YaNi Reader
11/10/10 10:45 a.m.
Tifosi2k2 wrote: Anybody know if the Russians have launched any Typhoon class subs from the Polyarny inlet lately?

Typhoon class subs have enough food and supplies for 180 days.

JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/10/10 11:57 a.m.
ansonivan wrote: - crackpot mad scientist invents a new form of propulsion - nobody will listens to CMS' wild idea because he smells like a dirty microwave - CMS says 'eff you guys' and builds a prototype - 20 minutes after launch our clever crackpot is hired by the man

UT protype in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1BBGAOwxo

[I'm not sure that the government would fund university research to develop something they already have. It is a heck of a cover story - "Nope, that's not us....we're working on it, but we don't have one yet" - but WAY too expensive to justify.]

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
11/10/10 12:44 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: Picked up elsewhere... Detailed explanation of contrails. http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-4

Thanks for posting this. Yeah, funny, it looks completely different to me now.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
11/10/10 12:53 p.m.

I will admit, I do not know if what I posted is the real answer or just the answer that The Man wants us to believe.

1slowcrx
1slowcrx HalfDork
11/10/10 1:25 p.m.

I've been to VandyLand and was lucky enough to witness a launch while there for an engineering conference at Cal Poly.

I've got a hard time believing the VandyLand ppl don't know what this is or where it came from.

tuna55
tuna55 Dork
11/10/10 1:56 p.m.

it was a plane heading towards the camera.

tuna55
tuna55 Dork
11/10/10 1:56 p.m.

http://contrailscience.com/

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