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Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/08 9:27 a.m.

NSFW language http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=4085665

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
12/16/08 9:31 a.m.

I don't even know why we still debate this. Isn't it obvious that Ninjas > Pirates?

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/08 9:35 a.m.

Because some people think ninjas > pirates.

walterj
walterj HalfDork
12/16/08 10:04 a.m.

I am confused on how this is an issue... on one hand we have folks dressed all in black sneaking around, tossing balls of smoke, disappearing and murdering other folk usng badass weapons and running on walls.

On the other hand you have guys on a boat, swashbuckling (which I think is code for something else), not brushing their teeth, wearing frilly stuff and consorting with parrots, occasionally murdering... but not in a cool way... in the regular way using crude stuff. Oh... and they drink rum. Who drinks rum... its not like the Caribbean wasn't close enough to good Tequila so it was by choice they went the chick route. I'm just sayin'...

aircooled
aircooled Dork
12/16/08 10:18 a.m.

Dan: Father! We thought you were dead.

Yellowbeard: Us Yellowbeards are never more dangerous than when we're dead. How are you gettin' on pirating?

Dan: Um, well...

Yellowbeard: How many men have you killed so far?

Dan: One. Two, I think.

Yellowbeard: You think? You'll never kill anyone if you go around thinkin'.

neon4891
neon4891 Dork
12/16/08 10:24 a.m.

and jedi's pown all

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 10:26 a.m.

Wenches. Ninjas don't have anything that compares to wenches. Rum is great. What to Ninjas get? Sake? Pah!

For pirates, killing is only a means to an end. The life of a pirate is one of seeing what you want, and taking it for your own! "Take what ye want! Give nothin' back."

They get to sail the open seas, drink rum, brawl, amass treasure, and cavort with saucy wenches!

Basically the life of a pirate is a non-stop party.

What do ninjas have? Honor? Ha! I'll take rum and wenches over honor any day of the week!

Great pirates who you wish you were: Han Solo, all of the Goonies, Inigo Montoya.

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
12/16/08 10:45 a.m.
Salanis wrote: Wenches. Ninjas don't have anything that compares to wenches. Rum is great. What to Ninjas get? Sake? Pah!

You're right. They have nothing that compares to Wenches. They have Japanese women. Japanese women > Wenches.

Rum is for women. Sake will put some hair on your chest.

Here's a list of 10 ninjas you wish YOU were.

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tommy Suddard
Tommy Suddard GRM+ Member
12/16/08 10:51 a.m.
  1. Chuck Norris
Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 10:57 a.m.
Tommy Suddard wrote: 11. Chuck Norris

Is a Ninja Pirate. He doesn't count. Neither does Darth Vader, Jackie Chan, or Marjorie Suddard, also Ninja Pirates.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 10:58 a.m.
confuZion3 wrote: Rum is for women. Sake will put some hair on your chest.

Umm... I don't associate hairy chests with Japanese men.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/08 10:59 a.m.

I completely disagree with number 7. He is a total Ninja poseur, if you look closely you will see his orange socks. The other nine are spot on though.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/08 11:27 a.m.
confuZion3 wrote:
Salanis wrote: Wenches. Ninjas don't have anything that compares to wenches. Rum is great. What to Ninjas get? Sake? Pah!
You're right. They have nothing that compares to Wenches. They have Japanese women. Japanese women > Wenches.

Damn right! Watch Hero and observe a ninja quickie in progress. They have to be quick 'cuz that's how ninjas do it.

914Driver
914Driver Dork
12/16/08 11:32 a.m.

Ninjas rock! A lifetime of training for one chance at hired assassination? That's dedication.

Even National Geographic says that Pirate ships were great floating homosexual communities.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 11:57 a.m.
914Driver wrote: Even National Geographic says that Pirate ships were great floating homosexual communities.

If you want to get all historical... the British expanded their empire through piracy. It was essentially pirates that defeated the Spanish Armada.

Historical Ninjas were trained to get in to kill their target, and not expected to get out. Frequently they weren't even able to complete the former.

Pirates were the scourge of the Caribbean during their heyday. Despite concerted efforts to wipe them out they were never truly successfully stopped. They would frequently assault ships with vastly more numbers than themselves. They employed psychological warfare and tactics to their advantage. Pirates used curved and serrated weapons, not because they were more effective, but because they left nastier looking wounds that would horrify and demoralize their opponents into surrender. They had to do what they could to maintain their numbers.

Because their ships were manned with fewer people, they also had to be excellent sailors. You couldn't have a small portion of your force dedicated to one task, everyone on the ship had to be able to do everything.

Pirates were actually quite egalitarian in an odd sort of way. They didn't particularly care about race or gender as long as the person could pull their weight. There are recorded famous female pirate captains.

Speaking of recorded pirates... we can remember famous historical pirates. As attrocious as they were, we recognize names like Blackbeard, Redbeard, Calico Jack Rackham (who Jack Sparrow was modeled after; the arch that he doffs his hat to in the first movie is a real location, where Calico Jack was hung). Partly that's a product of growing up in western culture, but... name me some famous historical ninjas. Not Samurai, but Ninjas.

jrw1621
jrw1621 Reader
12/16/08 12:12 p.m.

The meek shall inherit the earth...

The brave shall get the sea!

walterj
walterj HalfDork
12/16/08 12:18 p.m.
  • HATTORI HANZO
  • YAGYU JUBEI
  • SARUTOBI SASUKE
  • IYAMOTO MUSASHI
  • SASAKI KOJIRO
  • MITO KOUMON
  • OISHI KURANOSUKE
  • RYOUKAN
  • KONDO ISAMI
  • HIJIKATA TOSHIZO
  • OKITA SOUJI
  • SAKAMOTO RYOMA
  • NINOYIYA SONTOKU

Next time I'll just paste the link to letmegooglethatforyou.com

Pirates of the Carribean are as famous in Tokyo as these men listed here in NYC so when quoting history you have to remember the context. The Ninja definately had a longer lasting run.

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
12/16/08 12:24 p.m.

Ninjas do not seek fame. They exist in absolute silence and darkness. Then they strike. Then they are gone. That's it. Often, even the person that they assassinate has no idea he is dead until long after the fact.

walterj
walterj HalfDork
12/16/08 12:33 p.m.

Oh yeah... and rum is for chicks. So there.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 12:41 p.m.

Rum is way better than Sake. No contest. And as far as manliness of booze, Spirits > Beer > Wine. For spirits, rum ranks just below whiskey:

  • Whiskey (Scotch > Bourbon)
  • Rum
  • Vodka
  • Tequila

Sake falls in manliness somewhere between red and white wine.

walterj
walterj HalfDork
12/16/08 12:55 p.m.
Salanis wrote: - Tequila - Whiskey (Scotch > Bourbon) - Cheap Tequila - Gin - Vodka - Fancy liquors - Semen - Rum

There I fixed that for you! :)

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/16/08 1:24 p.m.

I don't know how you expect to be taken seriously when you're claiming that Whiskey is not the manliest beverage.

Ask yourself this: "WWJWD?" - What Would John Wayne Drink?

berkeleying Whiskey. That's what.

Now, I could see an argument for Tequila over Rum, and debate the merits of those two. But nothing trumps whiskey for pure manliness.

Let's see... rum vs tequila.

  • Used in fruity girly drinks - Both
  • Aged in oak casks - Rum
  • Drunken strait up by sorority girls on vacation - tequila
  • Available in 75%+ ABV form that can be lit on fire without prep - Rum
rebelgtp
rebelgtp HalfDork
12/16/08 1:56 p.m.
Salanis wrote: Wenches. Ninjas don't have anything that compares to wenches.

You were saying?

and here is your typical wench

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/16/08 5:45 p.m.

Damn I want some whiskey right berkeleying now.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
12/16/08 6:04 p.m.

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