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DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
10/23/12 11:15 a.m.

Ride along!

That first turn is definitely different. I also didn't seem much of a straightaway.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltraDork
10/23/12 11:55 a.m.

That's definitely an interesting track, but I don't like the industrial look of the whole thing.

Double_Wishbone
Double_Wishbone New Reader
10/23/12 11:59 a.m.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this track. I'll admit though, I like it a lot better now that it's completed and there's actual onboard videos. It's better than pictures of a construction site and Rick Perry telling the world how awesome it's going to be.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/23/12 12:26 p.m.

Nico Hulkenberg doing a sim lap in an F1 car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SA45sREHgk&feature=related

Double_Wishbone
Double_Wishbone Reader
10/23/12 12:53 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5gLoxNE7ms

Good old Mario Andretti taking a lap in his classic World Championship car.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/23/12 3:51 p.m.

It's in F1 2012 for the 360 and PS3. It has two long straights. My dad and I will be driving it soon.

f86sabjf
f86sabjf Reader
10/23/12 7:14 p.m.

Seems like a very slow track except in a few places. I don't think i will be a fan of this one. Doesn't seem like it flows very well.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/23/12 7:22 p.m.

i drove right past that place- well, a few miles away, on I35- when i was going to San Antonio in June and totally spaced out on at least getting a pic of the front gate.. in my defense, i was a little pissed after getting lost in downtown Austin on the way down after taking a scenic detour to see some sights, and wasn't driving when we hit Austin 3 days later on the way back north..

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer UltimaDork
10/23/12 7:56 p.m.

To me, I compare new track and old track to new and old cars. Old tracks like Road Atlanta, Laguna, Monza, Brands Hatch, Nurburgring, ect. have this uniqueness and special characteristics to them like old Fiats, Porsches, Alfas, ect. People have been killed on them (the tracks) and in them (the cars). But they always had this special quirkiness to them. They are just so much fun.

New tracks: Bahrain, Circuit of the Americas, India, Korea, ect. remind me of new Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. Boring lines, not much thrills. Just safe and boring. Safe, yes that is a good thing, but man are they boring. That is what makes racing fun. The danger in it. Getting behind the wheel of an old Alfa and bombing thru Brands, I'm sure it has a bigger excitement thrill and cool factor than a Camry at Circuit of the America.

That is just me :flamesuitison:

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
10/23/12 9:27 p.m.

Seems like a single line track . . . I hope I'm wrong.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/23/12 11:02 p.m.
Strike_Zero wrote: Seems like a single line track . . . I hope I'm wrong.

it was designed for F1, where passing is looked down upon...

nderwater
nderwater UberDork
10/24/12 8:01 a.m.
Double_Wishbone wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5gLoxNE7ms Good old Mario Andretti taking a lap in his classic World Championship car.

So refreshing to see a F1 car with a steel steering wheel and an actual gear shift.

PHeller
PHeller UltraDork
10/24/12 8:22 a.m.

What I don't like is that both straights have 60º exits. They are going to be exiting corners, probably with a great deal of contact as drivers slide into one another on the inside

The rest of the track looks pretty normal, which I guess is pretty boring.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/24/12 8:24 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: To me, I compare new track and old track to new and old cars. Old tracks like Road Atlanta, Laguna, Monza, Brands Hatch, Nurburgring, ect. have this uniqueness and special characteristics to them like old Fiats, Porsches, Alfas, ect. People have been killed on them (the tracks) and in them (the cars). But they always had this special quirkiness to them. They are just so much fun. New tracks: Bahrain, Circuit of the Americas, India, Korea, ect. remind me of new Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. Boring lines, not much thrills. Just safe and boring. Safe, yes that is a good thing, but man are they boring. That is what makes racing fun. The danger in it. Getting behind the wheel of an old Alfa and bombing thru Brands, I'm sure it has a bigger excitement thrill and cool factor than a Camry at Circuit of the America. That is just me :flamesuitison:

I agree with this.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/24/12 8:25 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: Old tracks like Road Atlanta, Laguna, Monza, Brands Hatch, Nurburgring, ect. have this uniqueness and special characteristics to them like old Fiats, Porsches, Alfas, ect. People have been killed on them (the tracks) and in them (the cars).

The Nurburgring has to be the old Porsche - unforgiving and downright bloody dangerous when driven fast /ducks

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
10/24/12 9:47 a.m.
novaderrik wrote:
Strike_Zero wrote: Seems like a single line track . . . I hope I'm wrong.
it was designed for F1, where passing is looked down upon...

I think you're both wrong.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
10/24/12 12:34 p.m.

Possible . . . But looking at Mario's and the Hulk's lap, it seems single line. The lap in the 458 makes it look painful for cars with lower down force. It appears to be another cookie cutter from Tilke. V8 Supercars at Bahrain look SLOW . . . here's to hoping I'm wrong.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
10/24/12 1:12 p.m.

It's a race track; a NEW race track. What's not to love!?

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Reader
10/24/12 1:27 p.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: To me, I compare new track and old track to new and old cars. Old tracks like Road Atlanta, Laguna, Monza, Brands Hatch, Nurburgring, ect. have this uniqueness and special characteristics to them like old Fiats, Porsches, Alfas, ect. People have been killed on them (the tracks) and in them (the cars). But they always had this special quirkiness to them. They are just so much fun. New tracks: Bahrain, Circuit of the Americas, India, Korea, ect. remind me of new Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. Boring lines, not much thrills. Just safe and boring. Safe, yes that is a good thing, but man are they boring. That is what makes racing fun. The danger in it. Getting behind the wheel of an old Alfa and bombing thru Brands, I'm sure it has a bigger excitement thrill and cool factor than a Camry at Circuit of the America. That is just me :flamesuitison:

Yes, this feels more like a test track than a race track.

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
10/24/12 6:33 p.m.

Is it bad that I'm more excited about the V8 Supercars race in May than the USGP?

I will find a way there next year to watch those crazy aussies beat and bang on one another in good ole Murica.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
10/24/12 6:38 p.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote:
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: To me, I compare new track and old track to new and old cars. Old tracks like Road Atlanta, Laguna, Monza, Brands Hatch, Nurburgring, ect. have this uniqueness and special characteristics to them like old Fiats, Porsches, Alfas, ect. People have been killed on them (the tracks) and in them (the cars). But they always had this special quirkiness to them. They are just so much fun. New tracks: Bahrain, Circuit of the Americas, India, Korea, ect. remind me of new Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. Boring lines, not much thrills. Just safe and boring. Safe, yes that is a good thing, but man are they boring. That is what makes racing fun. The danger in it. Getting behind the wheel of an old Alfa and bombing thru Brands, I'm sure it has a bigger excitement thrill and cool factor than a Camry at Circuit of the America. That is just me :flamesuitison:
Yes, this feels more like a test track than a race track.

"The road used to move with the land, not cut straight through it."

f86sabjf
f86sabjf Reader
10/24/12 6:49 p.m.

exactly

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
10/24/12 7:05 p.m.

Well, when you guys are all billionaires, I hope you build racetracks that move with the land, so the rest of us, having never driven them, can talk about what pieces of E36 M3 they are. Just keep in mind, Texas is pretty berkeleyin flat!

Every track is challenging. If it's not, you're not doin it right.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
10/24/12 9:13 p.m.

Since the track is bringing my beloved V8 Supercars over our corner of the world, I love it . . . but the layout (as seen in the videos) still look like a snoozer.

Sorta like NCCAR in Roanoke Rapids. A few parts of the track was AWESOME . . . but most of it was a snoozer. It's a track for testing . . . reminded me of a nice Tilke design . . .

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
10/24/12 9:39 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: Every track is challenging. If it's not, you're not doin it right.

Uh..you make a good point. I was going to crack a joke about Malibu Grand Prix being challenging but dull, but I have to admit it's fun when there's nowhere else to go. Maybe it's because I suck at the "technical bits" (and not just on Forza..I sucked at slow corners back when I raced for real, too).

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