Patriots dynasty about to implode?

I think it's awesome. A billionaire sports team owner gets busted for going to a rub-and-tug at a Florida strip mall? You can't write a better story to keep NFL fans entertained in the off-season. 

In reply to Tom_Spangler :

Nah, it's classless. There's a spearamint rhino roughly 26 miles away. There's no reason to go to a rub and tug when an establishment of that nature or of that quality is nearby. 

In reply to captdownshift :

That’s not the Florida way.

In reply to Wally :

Rhino is full service...

This image is very important to this thread.

MrJoshua said:

Honest questions: 

1) Why is sex trafficking attached to the Superbowl? Is there some correlation between big sporting events and trafficking? 

2) Is there less trafficking in countries with legalized prostitution?

Have you ever been to a Formula 1 race?

In reply to Woody :

I went to Monaco once in high school but they made me stay below deck the whole time.  It was exhausting.

With all his money, why a strip mall massage parlor?  He can almost afford me. 

Wally said:

In reply to captdownshift :

That’s not the Florida way.

Once again, Wally FTW.

berkeleying Jupiter???

This is tantamount to the Spurbury PD cracking the big John Chimpo case. 

I’m guessing Deputy Droopy Dog & co celebrated with 2 for 1 bud lights and half-priced hand-whammies at Shenanigans.

poopshovel again said:

berkeleying Jupiter???

This is tantamount to the Spurbury PD cracking the big John Chimpo case. 

I’m guessing Deputy Droopy Dog & co celebrated with 2 for 1 bud lights and half-priced hand-whammies at Shenanigans.

Something something bear berkeleyer

I'm probably the biggest Patriots fan on here, so naturally, I have to toss in my .02.

I find the whole thing absolutely bizarre. I'm having a really hard time wrapping my head around the whole thing.

I mean, we are talking about Robert Kraft here. This guy has more money than most of us could even dream of. He single-handedly not only transformed the Patriots organization, but he also transformed half the town of Foxboro MA into his own real estate juggernaut that has been nothing but successful since he bought the team. The stadium is older now, but it's still nice, and the surrounding facility and shopping area is world class. Before he bought the team, they were trash and the stadium (and surrounding area) was a real dump. Going there as a kid was sketchy at best, and downright dangerous at worst! To put it plainly: if it wasn't for the Krafts, the Patriots wouldn't be as successful as they have been. Hell, they wouldn't even BE the Patriots! They would have moved to Hartford, Providence, or St. Louis long ago!

Ever since his wife Myra died, he's been tearing it up like a 18 year old leaving home for the first time. He found himself a girlfriend (apparently solely for decoration and image) that's easily 1/3rd of his age. He's been hanging out with current socialites and hip hop stars, and hosting crazy parties after the team's wins. I thought he was "living the life".

So what the BERK is he doing going to a shady strip mall massage parlor in freaking Jupiter FL? The dude could obviously afford to go ANYWHERE and have legitimate, non-human-trafficked "relations" with someone. Why this place? And why are other old, rich white dudes going to this place as well? I get why a guy would want to go to a place like this, but WTF is Robert Kraft, a man who could go literally anywhere in the freaking world to do this, go to this place?

The charges are not a big deal for Kraft himself (basically a slap on the wrist in FL terms), and the team won't suffer too badly outside of a monetary fine (they really have zero to do with this since it was Kraft acting on behalf of himself) but the imaging is just freaking awful. Hopefully, some good comes of this, and a light is shined on the disgusting, deplorable human trafficking industry. If Kraft was smart, he'd get out in front of this thing, condemn his own actions, and donate heavily to some worthy causes that fight this plague on society.

While I'm not saying I necessarily agree with any of this, the best explanation I heard came down to this:

Rich and famous guys don't want to pick up random girls for free (even though they can) because eventually this will lead to sexual harassment / rape accusations and accompanying lawsuits and payouts because eventually they will wind up picking up someone with $$$ signs in their eyes.

They also don't want to employ the services of true full time "professionals" because these women or their pimps will then try to shake them down for hush money as they know it would be embarrassing should word get out to the public that they were visiting working girls.

So, they end up at these types of places, that at least have a front as a legitimate business, and wouldn't want to expose their "customers" knowing that this would be the end of the road for their "business".  So discretion wins out for everyone involved.

Again, I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this, or that it's my personal belief, but this is the most reasonable explanation I've heard as to how/why this happens.

No, that sounds entirely reasonable.

You could say, well, get on your private jet, fly to Nevada, do it legally.

He could, but then he has a nice trail of people seeing him doing that who could shake him down if they wanted.  It would be nice if he could say "F you, I do what I want, I am not hurting anyone" but some people just don't have the personality (how they were raised, too concerned with others opinions etc) to do that.

In reply to Tony Sestito :

I seriously doubt anyone in there knew or cared who the the berkeley he is. Something to be said for that. 

Yeah, those are great points. Anonymity in this situation was probably as prized as the act itself.

Still think it's odd that this one place down in FL gained a reputation for this, since he wasn't the only guy in his demographic to frequent the establishment. Is there an "old rich white guy" list of places to do shady E36 M3 that gets passed around at parties or something? And man, hiring a driver to drop you off in a Bentley to some seedy place in a strip mall is not a great way to "fly under the radar". C'mon, Bob!

you know, that's the only thing I've heard of that makes any sense to me, too.  we like dive bars for a reason.

dinger said:

While I'm not saying I necessarily agree with any of this, the best explanation I heard came down to this:

Rich and famous guys don't want to pick up random girls for free (even though they can) because eventually this will lead to sexual harassment / rape accusations and accompanying lawsuits and payouts because eventually they will wind up picking up someone with $$$ signs in their eyes.

They also don't want to employ the services of true full time "professionals" because these women or their pimps will then try to shake them down for hush money as they know it would be embarrassing should word get out to the public that they were visiting working girls.

So, they end up at these types of places, that at least have a front as a legitimate business, and wouldn't want to expose their "customers" knowing that this would be the end of the road for their "business".  So discretion wins out for everyone involved.

Again, I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with this, or that it's my personal belief, but this is the most reasonable explanation I've heard as to how/why this happens.

There's a little problem with that though as some of the local joints and authority figures found out.

There's a bar here in town I built. Before we turned it into a bar it was a rub n tug massage parlor. When we rebuilt it in 06, they had cameras watching the front and back doors, and were using the pictures of the clientele to keep the doors open until they finally blackmailed the wrong judges husband. I can only imagine places are doing the same things these days with much better and more discrete cameras. 

I guess what I'm saying is they aren't a anonymous as the clients like to think. 

In reply to Tony Sestito :

I guess we all imagine weird scenarios in our head just wondering “how the berkeley does this happen???” Personally I envision it as him and his buddies sitting around drunk, and one of them says “Hey Bob, we’re goin out for hand whammies! Wanna come?”

Bob: “Hell yeah! Jeeves! Fire up the Bentley and put on some Wu Tang!”

Not, “Gee, fellas. I would, but that would be disrespectful to women, and possibly support the morally deplorable sex-trade. If you *must* enjoy whammy by hand, let me consult my creepy list for a list of legal, high-paying establishments 3,000 miles away.”

Don't blame him. You ever try rubbing one out with six Superbowl rings on?

Can't we agree that the thread title is a bit of hyperbole? 

There is a sandwich shop that made a sandwich named after him.

Its a pulled jerk chicken sandwich

So he pulls up before the AFC title game in a white Bentley and shows up the next day in a blue Bentley. Either he's ballin' or the worst incognito dude ever. 

On a more berkeley it note I do seriously wonder where Gillette is going to fit this into their next Toxic Masculinity ad? 

In reply to Mazdax605 :

I won't. Carolina Panthers have a new owner. Kraft is just lucky right now that sex work is intersectional.