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spandak
spandak Dork
8/10/24 12:13 a.m.

In reply to Puddy46 :

That's really bad. Woof

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
8/10/24 12:13 a.m.

Well, if you own an M1 you can brag to your buddies that it was the only BMW to ever have two roundels on the back.  wink  Yes, it bugs me a little too but I could overlook that minor fault if I could afford to buy one.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/10/24 3:20 a.m.

The propotions on an NSX (original version).  There's just too much flat rear deck between the rear window and the wing/spoiler.

 

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
8/10/24 6:59 a.m.

Floating roofline gets the approval of this insurance adjuster because it provides a painting gap. No more having to blend the stupid roof rail over the doors!

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/10/24 9:01 a.m.
ddavidv said:

Floating roofline gets the approval of this insurance adjuster because it provides a painting gap. No more having to blend the stupid roof rail over the doors!

Practical!

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/10/24 10:35 a.m.
DarkMonohue said:
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

My WAG is that is the standard Roundel that was used on all models and it's just barely too large to fit on the vertical section of deck lid.  For such a limited production car, sticking two badges on the back ws cheaper than making a single smaller badge.

My WAG is that they wanted people to know damn well what just shipped them, no matter which side they went past on, knowing that most people would never see enough M1s to recognize them on sight.

 *ahem* ... what just whupped them. Stupid autocorrect.

 

codrus (Forum Supporter) said:

The propotions on an NSX (original version).  There's just too much flat rear deck between the rear window and the wing/spoiler.

 I disagree on that one.  That is the shape the body needs to be to conceal the innards.  I like the flat deck.  It looks purposeful, not overly stylized or garish.  People sometimes complain about cars not being dramatic enough, but againt the overstyling we are currently seeing on everything with wheels, the early NSX is downright elegant.

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito UltimaDork
8/12/24 7:55 a.m.
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) said:
Wally (Forum Supporter) said: Eventually I have to try and change the lenses on my C6. I've been thinking of painting the buckets black or dark gray. 

Do it! I think it looks so much better.

 

My dad's C6 convertible is yellow, and I can't stand the color matched light buckets. This looks SOOOOOO much better. Wow. 

Beer Baron 🍺
Beer Baron 🍺 MegaDork
8/12/24 8:24 a.m.
mtn said:

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

I agree. I kind of like the overall design, but every time I see one in person it just looks like a rolling dumpster. 

Whenever I see a Cybertruck rolling down the road, it short-circuits something in my brain. I immediately feel like I'm playing a computer game and an unrendered vehicle just glitched across my screen.

Cyberpunk 2077 Amazing Moments - Vehicle Glitches and Pedestrian Bugs ...

On topic...

I hate the taillights on the ND Miata.

2017 Mazda MX-5 Miata Retractable Fastback Debuts | Automobile MagazineThey just look... wrong. Like a poorly drawn version of Batou's eyes...
Batou • Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex • Absolute Anime

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/12/24 9:09 a.m.

There is no external hatch release on the current Supra.

This might have been a minor annoyance, but after you use the hatch release on the drivers door, the hatch tends to bounce a bit when you close the door, relatching the hatch.

Yes, there's a hatch release on the key fob as well, but I generally leave that in the car when I'm parking in my own garage.

My E86 Z4 coupe had a nice combination hatch release and lift handle activated by pressing in on the rear roundel/logo.  The Supra has neither.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/12/24 9:19 a.m.

In reply to Karacticus :

Speaking of external hatch/trunk releases, the ND has one, but it's a vertical button under the bumper near the license plate, about a foot or two off the ground. Try bending that low with hands full of grocery bags. You're better off kicking it lol.

prodarwin
prodarwin MegaDork
8/12/24 9:21 a.m.

I can't stand how much lower the rear fender is cut vs. the front on an E36 bmw.

1995 BMW 325i Sedan for Sale - Cars & Bids

same with GD Imprezas

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan for Sale - Cars & Bids

 

Fine print:  This comment does not mean the author of this posts considers these vehicles to be "otherwise great cars"

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/12/24 9:57 a.m.
wearymicrobe said:

Tesla's Cybertruck is perhaps the most advanced, worst-designed truck in modern  automotive history - Yanko Design

Just the whole thing. I am very petty about basically every single external design decision on this stupid rolling casket.

I recognize that I am in the minority on this, but other than the wheels, I love the way those things look, especially in person.

I'm of course ignoring the price and quality issues completely.  But I think they're awesome looking.  If they were actually good vehicles, I'd drive one.

 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/12/24 12:10 p.m.
DarkMonohue said:

 I disagree on that one.  That is the shape the body needs to be to conceal the innards.  I like the flat deck.  It looks purposeful, not overly stylized or garish.  People sometimes complain about cars not being dramatic enough, but againt the overstyling we are currently seeing on everything with wheels, the early NSX is downright elegant.

Sure, it's functional, but to my eye the proportions are just awkward.  To me it makes what could have been a awesome-looking car into one that's flawed.

Contrast it with a 355 of the same vintage which has the same mechanical challenges (mid/rear transverse mount V engine), and Pininfarina did a much better job with it.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) MegaDork
8/12/24 12:14 p.m.
maschinenbau said:

In reply to Karacticus :

Speaking of external hatch/trunk releases, the ND has one, but it's a vertical button under the bumper near the license plate, about a foot or two off the ground. Try bending that low with hands full of grocery bags. You're better off kicking it lol.

 

Now you made me have to go out to the garage and see this button i didn't know existed........

iansane
iansane GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/12/24 12:27 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
DarkMonohue said:

 I disagree on that one.  That is the shape the body needs to be to conceal the innards.  I like the flat deck.  It looks purposeful, not overly stylized or garish.  People sometimes complain about cars not being dramatic enough, but againt the overstyling we are currently seeing on everything with wheels, the early NSX is downright elegant.

Sure, it's functional, but to my eye the proportions are just awkward.  To me it makes what could have been a awesome-looking car into one that's flawed.

 

Contrast it with a 355 of the same vintage which has the same mechanical challenges (mid/rear transverse mount V engine), and Pininfarina did a much better job with it.

The 355 isn't transverse. So, even more of a packaging issue? Also, didn't Honda put a trunk behind the engine?

QuasiMofo (John Brown)
QuasiMofo (John Brown) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/12/24 12:43 p.m.

Not a design element but more of a "Caller IQ" issue:

Ran 2500/3500s with their tow mirrors flipped up. Every time I see one I say "Uh oh, it's angry!" And make a rattly noise in my throat like a raptor in Jurassic Park. I figure if those idiots get to annoy me I get to annoy those stuck riding with me. 

Ask Angry winkdevil

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/12/24 12:53 p.m.

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

I have a very definite sense of proportion, and to my eye the NSX has great lines.  I don't think the extended rear is an issue.  It kind of has a 911 longtail or 917 vibe to me.

Absolutely not saying your opinion is wrong; I just don't happen to share it.

 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/12/24 1:19 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:
maschinenbau said:

In reply to Karacticus :

Speaking of external hatch/trunk releases, the ND has one, but it's a vertical button under the bumper near the license plate, about a foot or two off the ground. Try bending that low with hands full of grocery bags. You're better off kicking it lol.

 

Now you made me have to go out to the garage and see this button i didn't know existed........

We're just here to provide the news you can use.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/12/24 1:33 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:
maschinenbau said:

In reply to Karacticus :

Speaking of external hatch/trunk releases, the ND has one, but it's a vertical button under the bumper near the license plate, about a foot or two off the ground. Try bending that low with hands full of grocery bags. You're better off kicking it lol.

 

Now you made me have to go out to the garage and see this button i didn't know existed........

heart this place. 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/12/24 1:44 p.m.
Duke said:

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

I have a very definite sense of proportion, and to my eye the NSX has great lines.  I don't think the extended rear is an issue.  It kind of has a 911 longtail or 917 vibe to me.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the styling on the 911 longtail (or even the back end of the 959), either.  Same with the McLaren F1 longtail.

917 is a bit different, because the bubble is so much lower and the rear bodywork so much higher it's basically just flat across the entire profile.

 

einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) Dork
8/12/24 1:44 p.m.

It annoys me that the Chevy Bolt has some generic looking (to me at least) geometrical pattern visible in the brake / tail lights when they light up, instead of a series of lightning bolts.  Seems like a completely wasted visual opportunity to me.

First Drive: 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV - The Detroit Bureau

 

Recon1342
Recon1342 UltraDork
8/12/24 2:05 p.m.

Any of the current Lexus grilles.

The LC looks like such a fun car, and then they went and put a grille on the front end that puts a whale shark to shame.

 

Puddy46
Puddy46 HalfDork
8/12/24 2:48 p.m.
QuasiMofo (John Brown) said:

Not a design element but more of a "Caller IQ" issue:

Ran 2500/3500s with their tow mirrors flipped up. Every time I see one I say "Uh oh, it's angry!" And make a rattly noise in my throat like a raptor in Jurassic Park. I figure if those idiots get to annoy me I get to annoy those stuck riding with me. 

Ask Angry winkdevil

I always see this.

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/12/24 4:07 p.m.
Recon1342 said:

Any of the current Lexus grilles.

The LC looks like such a fun car, and then they went and put a grille on the front end that puts a whale shark to shame.

 

Cube (1997) - Opening Scene (Graphic Horror Scene Warning)

 

Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter)
Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/12/24 10:36 p.m.

That flat spot on the front newer BRZ"s for mounting the license plate. Just kills the while front for me. Toyota managed to do it so much better.

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