Racist violence in my neighborhood REALLY sucks

M2Pilot wrote:

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

4eyes wrote: WE DON'T SERVE YOUR KIND HERE!!!

Are you a string?

He used to be a string but now he's a frayed knot.

I am not afraid............ No wait........is that the same?

I don't beleive in racism. There are so many good reason to hate people on an individual basis.

M2Pilot wrote:

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

4eyes wrote: WE DON'T SERVE YOUR KIND HERE!!!

Are you a string?

He used to be a string but now he's a frayed knot.

Finally. Someone remembers the punchline to the greatest clean joke of all-time.

I don't know the neighborhood in which the crimes happened, but I bet it is a crime riddled neighborhood (I know neighborhoods like it). I am sure that if it is crime riddled the people in that neighborhood prey on each other...they may not even report the crimes because they have become so accustom to them. It is a shame that innocent people from the outside experienced that. The implication that there is a war on white people seems a bit extreme and inaccurate.

To the OP:

The problem: Black culture is the most violent culture in the U.S. Comprising only 12% of the population, they've committed more murders than any other race in the U.S. over the last 30 years, and as of 2009, made up 30% of the U.S. jail population.

Sorry (not really) for throwing some real (U.S. Dept. of Justice) statistics into the argument. I know that's not PC. But if we're going to discuss solutions then we need real data.

Causes: This is what's interesting to me from a 'social engineering gone wrong' standpoint. There are a lot of different theories as to why blacks in the U.S. are more violent than any other race, a lot of which go back to the 'nature vs. nurture' argument. I find all that stuff fascinating, and personally believe it's much more 'nurture' than 'nature.'

Here's my theory: The problem begins with 72% of black children being born out of wedlock. I'm no psychologist, but daddy running around doing whatever daddy's doing while mommy is raising multiple kids by different sperm donors can't be good for a kid's psyche.

Until this cultural problem is addressed, I don't see how in the world the violent crime problem can be. And I don't know how you 'fix' the problem of absent black fathers. What I do know is that not talking about it for fear of being called a racist (or worse if you're black,) isn't helping. Step 1 in that process is not worrying about being called a racist, which I don't. One of the best tricks the government has played in their black social engineering experiment is convincing everyone that once you can label someone a "racist," nothing they say matters anymore.

I'll write more later. I need to go make some money which the government can take from me and use to keep a brutha' down.

Update on the situation in Milwaukee: A mother saw her two kids on the surveylance video and turned them in. She also said, on the news, that other parents should do the same, otherwise, their just letting the kids know they can get away with bad behavior.

poopshovel wrote: The problem: Black culture is the most violent culture in the U.S. Comprising only 12% of the population, they've committed more murders than any other race in the U.S. over the last 30 years, and as of 2009, made up 30% of the U.S. jail population.

Which is weird because they have the same employment opportunities as everyone else, the same access to high quality education in the inner cities, they face no racial stereotypes whatsoever, and the government gives them lot's of real incentives to get off welfare and other support. Oh wait...

I'm not saying that there isn't some truth to the numbers, but I think that it is myopic to look at them and think that there are no other factors in play. To me, arguing race is like arguing religion or politics...its a loosing proposition.

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

joey48442 wrote: I do know that I've heard "I can't disagree with the president without being called racist" than I've EVAR heard people calling other people that disagree with the president racist. Joey

I was called racist in an Autozone when someone overheard me telling my friend that i didn't vote for Obama. Interesting that they never bothered to ask if i voted at all.

So you must be hispanic or asian. Your president is half a black guy so you can't be racist if you're white and you think he's an idiot.

Shawn

RealMiniDriver wrote: Update on the situation in Milwaukee: A mother saw her two kids on the surveylance video and turned them in. She also said, on the news, that other parents should do the same, otherwise, their just letting the kids know they can get away with bad behavior.

LIKE.

so how do we fix a society where 11-13% of its population is behind the curve because of a former policy of segregation and political and economic discrimination. It was only 40 something years ago when a black person could go to LSU (1964). This is in my lifetime. This is just an example. Think about how many lives were damage just by the lack of education opportunity? For a sake of a good society our citizens should be the most educated in the world, but we had policies from allowing a large percentage from being educated poperly. You have to admit this hurts the family's earning potential. This is just one aspect of things. There are many more sociological, emotional and financial affects of the American apartheid. Just some thoughts...

One of my best friends is half black and half Japanese (I mentioned him before). The stories He told me about what he went through growing up will curl your hair.

One of them was in his late teens and going to the mall.. being only 4'9" he does tend to stand out. A "brother" spotted him and then called some friends so they could point and laugh.

He used to try to be black to make up for his short nature.. but that incident sparked in him a real hatred for the black culture. Now he is just himself.

vazbmw wrote: ...former policy of segregation and political and economic discrimination....

That's all that needs to be said.

vazbmw wrote: so how do we fix a society where 11-13% of its population is behind the curve because of a former policy of segregation and political and economic discrimination. It was only 40 something years ago when a black person could go to LSU (1964). This is in my lifetime. This is just an example. Think about how many lives were damage just by the lack of education opportunity? For a sake of a good society our citizens should be the most educated in the world, but we had policies from allowing a large percentage from being educated poperly. You have to admit this hurts the family's earning potential. This is just one aspect of things. There are many more sociological, emotional and financial affects of the American apartheid. Just some thoughts...

No, there’s more that needs to be said. No, minorities don’t have the same opportunities as crackers. See, a cracker with a 3.8 GPA, community service records, and letters of merit would be put into a pool with thousands of other like candidates for admission into a college. A minority is put into a different pool, regardless of GPA, community service etc. simply BECAUSE of his skin color to increase his chances. You own a business and I apply for a job. My work history is spotty, skills are marginal and my interview goes about as smooth as a Charlie Sheen interview. Wanna hire me? Yeah, I wouldn’t either. But, if I were a minority with those same qualifications you’d think twice about not hiring me because it could be discrimination. As you can see, they have more opportunities than they’d like to admit. See, it’s easier to fault some other entity for your woes than to pull yourself up by your boot straps and get on with life. Look at Asian folks. They are a minority and it wasn’t that long ago that they weren’t wanted here and were in concentration camps here. Did they put together NAAJP? No, they worked hard, studied hard and, while they are a minority by the numbers they are by no means disadvantaged. Arabic or middle-eastern decent? Same story. Try finding a doctor in a major metropolitan area that isn’t of middle-eastern decent.
Again, my point isn’t that the black man is trying to keep the white man down, or that the past isn’t shameful to look back on. My point is that, things aren’t equal and never will be as long as someone wants preferential treatment.

Unfortunately, blaming today's behavior on the "former policy of segregation and political and economic discrimination" doesn't logically hold water... especially when you look at statistics from back when the discrimination was actively taking place and the stats were much much better. In other words, the theory (as plausible as it may sound) simply doesn't match with the data.

If you wanted to draw a logicial conclusion using that data alone, you would have to say that the significant reduction in disrimination led to significantly worse statistics. That obviously makes no sense, but at least it fits the data.

Now recognizing that that correlation does not necessarily mean causation, it's important to look at the data for other factors.

I'm of the opinion that race or discrimination itself has very little to actually do with it... in 1990 the Progressive Policy Institute (not a right wing organization by any means) did a study on black crime that found that if you control for children raised by single mothers, then the differences between black and white crime rates all but disappear.

When when you look at the historical data with that idea in mind (rather than race itself or discrimination), the statistics all line up.

So then it becomes a dicussion of what caused the significant differences in single parentlhood between the races... and again "past discrimination" doesn't fit the stats....

Bill

Which is weird because they have the same employment opportunities as everyone else, the same access to high quality education in the inner cities, they face no racial stereotypes whatsoever, and the government gives them lot's of real incentives to get off welfare and other support. Oh wait... I'm not saying that there isn't some truth to the numbers, but I think that it is myopic to look at them and think that there are no other factors in play.

Of course blacks don't have the same employment opportunities as everyone else. Thanks to affirmative action they have more. At some of the United States' largest companies, you don't even have to be smarter or more skilled than the other guy applying for the job or promotion, you just have to be the right color. If someone's convinced you that you're incapable of having a good job because of your skin color, they're the ones you should be angry with.

I'll agree with you on education, but again, that starts with the parents. If you can't afford to get the berkeley out of the 'inner city,' don't have kids yet, and focus on how you're going to get to a place where you can provide for them and get them a good education. For good or ill, Mrs. poop and I waited until we were 32 for this reason. To my point, I can't imagine how impossible it would be for a single mother to guarantee a good education for her kids. Round and round we go.

And CERTAINLY there's no incentive to get off gov't assistance programs. If anything, they push you to get MORE. We had friends who hit a rough streak and got on foodstamps for a few months a couple years ago. As soon as they were approved, they started getting notices in the mail for 'free' cell phones, etc. But god forbid we try to fix it. That would be political suicide!

Everyone faces racial stereotypes. If I have 5 black applicants and 5 white applicants come in for an interview, and end up hiring one of the white applicants, it's obviously because I'm a 'white boy' right? Stereotypes for every race have always and will always exist. I really think that the biggest problem in today's American culture as it pertains to racial stereotypes is that we can't joke around about it any more. Personally, if you're a black business owner and want to have all black employees, GO FOR IT!!! I'd much rather see 10 successful black men and women with gainful employment than a business owner who's forced to hire one skin color or another to meet a quota.

Personally, I think we'd be a lot better off if more people were still down with busting each other's balls on race. All those words and stereotypes are no longer hurtful when you can laugh about them. Ever wonder why Richard Pryor (and later, Dave Chappelle) were so wildly popular? They were equal opportunity offenders when it came to racial stereotypes.

I didn't say there were any other factors at play. There are too many for me to list and still be productive today (I'm eating lunch right now ) What I said was that I think the problem with violence in black culture STARTS with around 70% of black children being born out of wedlock. I don't have the first clue how to fix that, but I think that at least addressing it is a start.

To me, arguing race is like arguing religion or politics...its a loosing proposition.

Well, as long as we don't have a logical and respectful debate about problems, they'll all just go away eventually, right? Again, I think the problem is that we've been trained by our Neo-Orwellian government (regardless of which party is in control) NOT to talk about race anymore for fear of offending someone.

The obvious solution is more mixed raced babies.

"The Sheriff is near!"

Why does the horse he's on have white on it's head and feet? Is it because it's Mel Brooks way of saying that head (the thinking part) and the feet (the action part) have to be white? Huh? Don't you think that's just a little racist?
Why is it the white cereal, Frosted Flakes are GGRRRRREEAAAAAAT! while you gotta be coo-coo to eat the black cereal? Huh? Why are the green olives in a glass jar where everyone can look at them and the black olives gotta be in a can all hidden? Huh? See, yer all racists!

TucoRamirez wrote: The obvious solution is more mixed raced babies.

I'm willing to explore the whole color palette.

MitchellC wrote: I'm willing to explore the whole color palette.

That must be one of the olive-skinned Italians I hear so much about.

I hate any kinda racial bias towards any race. I don't understand why anyone cares. An shiny happy person is an shiny happy person.

I am so glad we can all agree that the past is the past. So if your good buddy with the 4.8 gpa lost out to a minority with no gpa then there is nothing to whine about..."IT IS ALL IN THE PAST". Get over it! Cool, now let's move on.

DrBoost wrote: Why does the horse he's on have white on it's head and feet? Is it because it's Mel Brooks way of saying that head (the thinking part) and the feet (the action part) have to be white? Huh? Don't you think that's just a little racist? Why is it the white cereal, Frosted Flakes are GGRRRRREEAAAAAAT! while you gotta be coo-coo to eat the black cereal? Huh? Why are the green olives in a glass jar where everyone can look at them and the black olives gotta be in a can all hidden? Huh? See, yer all racists!

See, this is a man who understands

TucoRamirez wrote: The obvious solution is more mixed raced babies.

Brazil tried that as a policy and they still figured out a way to be "ist" based on the skin's hue