TucoRamirez
TucoRamirez New Reader
7/17/09 12:53 p.m.

OK. I'm sure this has come up already, but we've now got Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers and the 370z & Genesis Coupe. When will they all meet up at oh how about Streets of Long Beach? I caught a few recent Grand Am or something races on Speed and it's cool, but nowhere near as exciting as the early 90's with the then new Mustangs and Camaros sliding around. I need to find a web site with photos of those old races. A model of one of the F-bodys would be great.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
7/17/09 1:32 p.m.

I like the way you're thinking, but the Trans-Am name is still owned by the SCCA, and they're using it on rebodied GT-1 cars.

Grand-Am's Koni Challenge series should have a home for all of the cars you mentioned, and I'd really like to see them open the rules a little more so Evos and WRXs could play too.

Black Forest Motorsports had a Challenger already. There was also the Penske-liveried Camaro in GS class trim that was being shown last year.

The 370 and Genesis will need some race team to be the first to try them in competition; Hyundai seems to have spent a significant race budget on Rhys Millen's drift car, so I'm crossing my fingers that they'll have something left for a traditional race effort.

I'll be at the 24 Hours of Daytona (GRM Experience FTW) to see what they come up with.

The Brown Stig
The Brown Stig GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/17/09 1:35 p.m.

Dorifto-Yo is cheaper because of only needing one guy to sponsor versus helping to engineer for a half dozen teams plus.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
7/17/09 1:51 p.m.

My understanding is that there is a limited number of "TransAm" races this year testing the waters for a full comeback. There'll be a race at or in conjunction with the runoffs, I was told. I'm hoping to be able to work a race or two.

To my knowlege, TransAm and GT1 have been analogous classes in Pro/Club racing for quite some time. At least they were when I was working in the TransAm series in '99-'00 and thereabouts.

You're right though...all the necessary platforms are there to keep it going.

Clem

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
7/17/09 1:54 p.m.

I think there needs to be a "sub GT-2" class for strictly stock vehicles with full safety with a television schedule, major sponsors, manufacturer involvement, and decent drivers. I would work my ass off to see something like that happen....who wants to help me start it...I got the marketing and PR side!

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/17/09 1:58 p.m.

That would be the SCCA T1/2 classes.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
7/17/09 2:16 p.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: That would be the SCCA T1/2 classes.

Except for the TV time part. Sadly though, I doubt that such an event/series could draw sufficient viewership to make it happen. To televise races, many ads must be sold to generate revenue.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/09 2:24 p.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: That would be the SCCA T1/2 classes.

Or Koni Challenge.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
7/17/09 3:49 p.m.

Neither have major factory backing. And koni uses mostly boring cars...subaru legacy, and im sorry but GT3RS are boring cuz there are so many.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/09 4:43 p.m.
maroon92 wrote: Neither have major factory backing. And koni uses mostly boring cars...subaru legacy, and im sorry but GT3RS are boring cuz there are so many.

Maybe we're talking about two different Koni Challenge series. The one I'm talking about features the Porsche 997, Mustang FR500C, BMW M3, Camaro, Challenger, Honda Civic Si, Cobalt SS, BMW 330i/328i, RX-8, MX-5, Cooper S, SRT-4, etc. Factories involved include Ford, Subaru, Mazda, GM and Acura.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
7/17/09 5:00 p.m.

Does that series ever get televised, though???

I'd love to see a higher-profile series with cars w/ near-stock sheetmetal and touring-car level race action.

oldsaw
oldsaw Reader
7/17/09 6:20 p.m.
gamby wrote: Does that series ever get televised, though??? I'd love to see a higher-profile series with cars w/ near-stock sheetmetal and touring-car level race action.

You can find Koni Challenge races via delayed broadcasts on SpeedTV. Check the schedule on the SpeedTV website.

You'll need a DVR/programmed VCR as the races appear to show up at rather odd times. And pray Speed doesn't change the schedule for some unannounced reason.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/09 6:21 p.m.
gamby wrote: Does that series ever get televised, though??? I'd love to see a higher-profile series with cars w/ near-stock sheetmetal and touring-car level race action.

Koni Challenge? Yes. Set your DVR: http://www.speedtv.com/programs/koni-challenge-series

TucoRamirez
TucoRamirez New Reader
7/19/09 3:26 p.m.

I've caught the Koni Challenge rebroadcasts for the past few weeks. I'll give 'em a chance to grow on me more. I just need to see the Mustang & Camaro head to head again. It takes my mind off all the things I need to fix on my Z28.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
7/19/09 3:43 p.m.

Sorry to offend David, but I just cannot watch the Koni series. Compared to the Speed World Challenge, they just cannot explain how the classing works well enough during the telecast. They never show any of the ST battles, and barely explain what kind of cars they are, and what diferentiates them.

not a fan....

we need real Trans Am back.

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
7/19/09 5:21 p.m.

can we just skip straight to the nearly race-ready homologation specials?

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
7/19/09 5:27 p.m.

exactly!

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