Sim racing will have to do

maroon92 wrote: This is me...not holding my breath...

Yeah, I know. I am worse than my wife when it comes to making decisions...at least about cars. My opinion...so many cool things to do...so little time.

It is likely going to be sim-racing for me for awhile as well. My money has been re-allocated from cars/racing to baby/nursery, definitely worth while mind you.

Yes, AutoX is cheap, but I just can't bring myself to want to go out there in a Mazda3. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a great car... just not a race car. And after 10 years of racing Mustangs, Zs, Porsches, etc... it is a tough sell to get me excited about a FWD with an automatic.

As for the GT5 v. Duke Nukem comment, I got my hand slapped and thread closed for saying that exact thing on GTPlanet. Even though the time frames, events and information all seem to parallel one another.

On separate occasions, I bought 2 PS2 specifically for GT4 (bought and sold one, then some time later bought another). I bought my PS3 in preparation for GT5, that was 2 years ago... come on Sony/PD, put down the gold plating and lets get the game out there. No one cares about 3D or the "Move".

In the meantime, I have... PS3: GT5:P, F1 Championship, Dirt2

PC: GTR, GTR2, GTL

PSN:BradLTL

I will have to say from past experience that I have enjoyed AutoX in everything I have raced. That included a 93 Mustang with a 2.3L 4cyl that would not spin the tires in the rain. BTW...it was an auto.

Challenge for the new guy: GT4, The Ring, any FF car, unlimited mods.

GO!!!!

Can do. I'll post up the best time tomorrow.

BradLTL wrote: It is likely going to be sim-racing for me for awhile as well. My money has been re-allocated from cars/racing to baby/nursery, definitely worth while mind you. Yes, AutoX is cheap, but I just can't bring myself to want to go out there in a Mazda3. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a great car... just not a race car. And after 10 years of racing Mustangs, Zs, Porsches, etc... it is a tough sell to get me excited about a FWD with an automatic. As for the GT5 v. Duke Nukem comment, I got my hand slapped and thread closed for saying that exact thing on GTPlanet.

One thing I've learned about sim and console racing since the FM3 online disaster...lots of the "gamers" get seriously angry when you suggest that racing IRL is somehow different than trying to shove the electrons around on a game (I was "vintageracer" on GTPlanet..search for me over there, and discover how long it's been since I participated in their nonsense). I don't see as much of that on the PC sim forums (Race Sim Central, etc.) as I see it on the Forza communities, but I sure as hell see it when I've made a clean pass on a "leaderboard car" in F3 online, and the guy responds by punting me off on the straight because his "perfectly tuned" videogame car has more straight-line grunt. Of course, I know enough about the basic theory of our sport to understand that even these console games contain enough ablility to "take out" the offender with something as simple as a Dale Earndhart quarter panel tap..but they never seem to realize that such contact IRL would result in an accident that might kill both of us.

And without that realization, they can't race worth a E36 M3. I've had messages on xBox Live saying, "..GRATE CRASH, MAN! U GOT IN THE AIR!". Bah. The morons don't understand that a crash in a racing "game" is like a fumble when you're playing one of the "Madden" series of US Football games.

Sorry to rant for so long...I really think online racing could really "scratch the itch" for a lot of us-but I also think the game companies are getting tired of guys like us who're looking for real racing online, and just want to appeal to the Marching Morons.

In reply to friedgreencorrado:

Agree with you 100%. That is why I spend very little time racing online. I appreciate the iRacing concept, but I want it with all my Gran Turismo goodness (graphics, cars, tracks, etc). I hope that GT5 will have private racing / groups so that the riff-raff can be kept out.

After my incident with the GTPlanet fanboy-ism I've stopped participating in their forums as well.

hamburglar wrote: Uhh dude! if you can afford to buy that ps3 and GT5.... you can afford to autocross at run what you brung.... I'm missing your logic here.

Autocross costs a lot more than just the entry fee. I think his logic is perfectly fine. Autocross is something you can do the rest of your life, if you have to take a year off here or there so what.

jlm_photo wrote: .....if my DD didn't have 170K on it I'd AutoX it.

I fail to see the problem. I autoX'd my 220K MKIII Golf. Thing was (is) a pile of rust, and a whole lot of fun.

That said, I'm not autoXing (or rallyXing) because: - my car has finally bit the dust - my car budget is pretty much non-existant this year (not liking this whole "unemployment" gig).

Been thinking about signing up for iRacing, but even a wheel/pedal set and monthly membership seems like a big investment at this point. But you can bet your ass as soon as I'm a productive member of society again, I'll be attacking the back like a semi-pro!

I guess not having a back up is why I don't autoX my Sentra. I am seriously looking at buying a AE-86 that is close to my house. However I will have to wait about 2 months. I just know that in 2 years or so I will be over this whole sim racing thing and if I get a car now I can always wrench on it.

BradLTL wrote: In reply to friedgreencorrado: Agree with you 100%. That is why I spend very little time racing online. I appreciate the iRacing concept, but I want it with all my Gran Turismo goodness (graphics, cars, tracks, etc). I hope that GT5 will have private racing / groups so that the riff-raff can be kept out.

Well, the problem over on Forza 3 is that there are private lobbies, where you can set the rules of the race (engine power/driver aids/realism), but so few of my online racing buddies are on at the same time that it's lucky if you can get a full field (I personally have never had one more than half-full). In Forza 2, you could set the "rules" in a public lobby, and over the course of about 30min, you'd find 6 or 8 other like-minded people (the "gaMerZ" would often immediately leave when they discovered the "suggested line" and automatic braking turned off). If Sony & PD has the ablility to "tune" the race settings on a public race like Forza 2 did, it'll be back to GT for me. All I really wanted was GT with Forza's paint/decal thingie anyway (gotta admit I really enjoy having Road Atlanta and the Corrado in the game). I miss Grand Valley Full so much I think I'll go fire up the PS2 for a minute..

Yeah, Grand Valley is really great.

BradLTL wrote: I hope that GT5 will have private racing / groups so that the riff-raff can be kept out.

Yeah, but where does that leave us?

Rufledt wrote: Yeah I'm sticking to sim racing for now. My DD is too new and under warranty to want to race it, especially because my old van (my only other vehicle) keeps trying to kill whoever drives it, so my choices are sim racing, risk mucking up my car or voiding the only warranty I've ever had on a car, or risk death by catastrophic fiery van wreck. I'll take sim racing. I'd take you up on the GT4 but my PS2 took a massive dump and my PS3 isn't old enough to have backward compatability (which is dumb). Ever try live for speed? It's only like $30 or something and you can do private servers and stuff (which gran turismo 5 prologue won't grrr). Also, $200 could pay for quite a long iRacing subscription

I thought the same of my PS3, perform the latest update and try the game. I have an 80gb and can play GT4 all day long.

BoxheadTim wrote:

BradLTL wrote: I hope that GT5 will have private racing / groups so that the riff-raff can be kept IN.

Yeah, but where does that leave us?

fixed it for you

LFS ftw, though the full up to date license is more then $30, that is just for S1 which is half the cars and almost no servers.

I wish I knew were all these $30 autocrosses were, rounds here its $50 minimum. :(

Opus wrote:

Rufledt wrote: Yeah I'm sticking to sim racing for now. My DD is too new and under warranty to want to race it, especially because my old van (my only other vehicle) keeps trying to kill whoever drives it, so my choices are sim racing, risk mucking up my car or voiding the only warranty I've ever had on a car, or risk death by catastrophic fiery van wreck. I'll take sim racing. I'd take you up on the GT4 but my PS2 took a massive dump and my PS3 isn't old enough to have backward compatability (which is dumb). Ever try live for speed? It's only like $30 or something and you can do private servers and stuff (which gran turismo 5 prologue won't grrr). Also, $200 could pay for quite a long iRacing subscription

I thought the same of my PS3, perform the latest update and try the game. I have an 80gb and can play GT4 all day long.

OO does it work on 160gb PS3's? I'm totally gonna have to try that when I get back to a place that allows more than just PC's to use internet.

You can download PS3 updates online and do it over a flash drive.

And I am pretty sure it doesn't work. As far as I have heard only the 60gig and certain older 80 gigs have backwards compatability...

Unless they released a patch adding software emulation of PS2 to all models in the past week or so he has one that has always support PS2 via software emulation and some patch improved it (or he just noticed it works)

Or you can get a 360, and play against the rest of the GRM'ers, on Sebring, Le Mans, Road Atlanta, Road America, Laguna Seca, Catalunya, Mugello, Tsukaba, Suzuka, and Motegi, just to name a few.

RedS13Coupe wrote: I wish I knew were all these $30 autocrosses were, rounds here its $50 minimum. :(

At our local SCCA it is $30 for non-members and $20 for members. Great venue too.