Sneaking a wireless router onto an internet connection?

Okay, here's what I want to do. I have a wireless router at home, and I want to add it to my wired Internet connection in my office so that I can use my iPhone on Wi-Fi. The system at work is an Internet connection that comes out of the wall, goes to my IP telephone and then plugs into my computer. Can I just add the wireless router in before it goes to the IP telephone?

You're wanting to put an unauthorized wireless access point onto your company's network?

I think what you want is a wireless access point, not a router. A hub will take addresses as dictated by the system router already in place, where as your router is going to conflict with the existing router.

Linky

depending on how much admin privileges you have on the computer you could run a USB wifi dongle and set it up to broadcast and share wifi (ad hoc)

If I'm not mistaken, you work in the insurance industry and contain peoples personal information in the computers and or network.

Do I need to explain the E36 M3storm that could commence EVEN IF you secure it with WEP?

pigeon wrote: Okay, here's what I want to do. I have a wireless router at home, and I want to add it to my wired Internet connection in my office so that I can use my iPhone on Wi-Fi. The system at work is an Internet connection that comes out of the wall, goes to my IP telephone and then plugs into my computer. Can I just add the wireless router in before it goes to the IP telephone?

Simple answer? No. the phone is likely powered via the ethernet cable.

BUT: Most IP phones have a switched ethernet jack on the back. I'm guess your work computer is plugged in here. from this port to the router/ap.

Make sure DHCP is NOT enabled on the router. and plug all lines in the 4 switchports.

Lastly, for the love of GOD. make sure security is enabled on the signal.

PS. Your IT folk will find it faster that you believe. Rogue APs are a major security risk on a corporate network.

I wouldn't reccomend doing this, especially if your network admins are worth a damn.

N Sperlo wrote: If I'm not mistaken, you work in the insurance industry and contain peoples personal information in the computers and or network. Do I need to explain the E36 M3storm that could commence EVEN IF you secure it with WEP?

Depending on the router used, WPA/WPA2 is just as useless now.

http://lifehacker.com/5873407/how-to-crack-a-wi+fi-networks-wpa-password-with-reaver

Ok, ok - bad idea. I'm not an Internet security guy, that's why I asked. I'll forget that I ever had the idea. Thanks.

Lemme guess, your workplace is a Faraday Cage that blocks mobile signals, and the companies internet filters block just about all fun you can have on the internet?

Mmmmm corporate efficiency.

PHeller wrote: Lemme guess, your workplace is a Faraday Cage that blocks mobile signals, and the companies internet filters block just about all fun you can have on the internet? Mmmmm corporate efficiency.

Nah, my IT guy is actually not very good at what he does and I doubt he'd even notice if I did that. They might log my Internet usage but in 9 years they've never said anything about the time I spend browsing at the office. All I really wanted to do was be able to use FaceTime at work, which needs a wifi signal unless I jailbreak which I don't want to do.

Need more bandwidth? Maybe limit the amount of programs using the web on your devise. I'm on my android all day and merely use half my allotted amount which is two gigs.

Edit: Disregard that. I see your previous post.

This is a terrible idea. People get fired for this kind of stuff all the time. If it's that important to you, ask for permission.

N Sperlo wrote: Need more bandwidth? Maybe limit the amount of programs using the web on your devise. I'm on my android all day and merely use half my allotted amount which is two gigs.

I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan with AT&T so no issues with usage, and as it is I only used 0.6 gig last month.

Ask the IT department if they could hook a brother up. IT guys are soooooo easy to bribe.

pigeon wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: Need more bandwidth? Maybe limit the amount of programs using the web on your devise. I'm on my android all day and merely use half my allotted amount which is two gigs.

I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan with AT&T so no issues with usage, and as it is I only used 0.6 gig last month.

Its a limitation in the phone itself, put in place by the carriers because they want to charge people tons of money for bandwidth and then not invest it in infrastructure.

N Sperlo wrote: Ask the IT department if they could hook a brother up. IT guys are soooooo easy to bribe.

Seriously, I'd probably do it if someone asked. Just setup a wireless AP to a port that only goes out to the internet and not internally and it should mitigate some of the internal IT security concerns.

rotard wrote: This is a terrible idea. People get fired for this kind of stuff all the time. If it's that important to you, ask for permission.

+1 from a former admin....having a friend in the IT dept is a good thing. Ask if you need it bad enough.

e_pie wrote: Depending on the router used, WPA/WPA2 is just as useless now. http://lifehacker.com/5873407/how-to-crack-a-wi+fi-networks-wpa-password-with-reaver

So, what's the gist of the WPA attack? I'm not going to let a site called "lifehacker" run scripts on my box, so I can't see it.

(OP already knows "Don't do that.")

Dr. Hess wrote:

e_pie wrote: Depending on the router used, WPA/WPA2 is just as useless now. http://lifehacker.com/5873407/how-to-crack-a-wi+fi-networks-wpa-password-with-reaver

So, what's the gist of the WPA attack? I'm not going to let a site called "lifehacker" run scripts on my box, so I can't see it. (OP already knows "Don't do that.")

Lifehacker is legit. They're mostly about productivity, with a technological bent. You're about as likely to learn how to hack wifi as to find an intro to molecular gastronomy. I stopped following them closely about a year ago when they ruined their site with the same redesign that ruined other Gawker sites like Jalopnik and Gizmodo. (Though these days, other things are ruining Gizmodo.)

Anyhow, it's not a direct attack on WPA\WPA2. It's an attack against WPS.

WPS is the system on some routers that lets you hit a physical button on the router and have the devices work out a strong key on the fly. There was a significant vulnerability against it announced about two weeks ago.

I like the SANS ISC - try this site for more: http://isc.sans.edu/diary/Wi-Fi+Protected+Setup+WPS+PIN+Brute+Force+Vulnerability/12292

My fun takeaway from reading the Lifehacker article is that, while I turned off WPS on my Linksys when I set it up the first time a few years ago, and haven't had on it since, there is a good chance it has been on all of this time anyway. Apparently, it is a bug in many Linksys routers.

Thanks, MM. It's not that I'm paranoid, it's just that teh hole intr4w3bz iz out ta git me.

pigeon wrote: Nah, my IT guy is actually not very good at what he does and I doubt he'd even notice if I did that.

This is an even better reason to NOT do it.

If he's not too good, the security systems may not be up to snuff. You could be offering an open door to the company network to any hacker worth a nickel.

Fast track to a pink slip, or worse if you or the company handle sensitive information. Could even be criminal.

Terrible idea.

N Sperlo wrote: Ask the IT department if they could hook a brother up. IT guys are soooooo easy to bribe.

Yep, just ask one of your IT folks nicely and tell them why you want it and I bet they'd hook you up.

Also, besides all of the reasons mentioned before, if you get caught doing it on your own, IT will label you as "one of those people", and your chances of getting special stuff done in the future will be reduced to near 0.