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orphancars
orphancars Reader
10/17/14 12:32 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

no.....go ahead...

KyAllroad
KyAllroad HalfDork
10/17/14 12:33 p.m.

Bidens kid does a bit of nose candy....

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
10/17/14 12:34 p.m.

...And gets booted from the Navy...

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
10/17/14 12:40 p.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: In reply to alfadriver: Not unless it's determined that the virus is more communicable than they think it is now.

So is it ok or not that an American Healtcare worker fly home from Africa?

They may have been just doing lab work.

If the NG troops build a structure, and contact nobody, can they come home, or do they sit in a box?

Which of the healcare workers need to be stuck in a room by themselves for 3 weeks in Texas?

There're more branches than it seems.

Cone_Junkie
Cone_Junkie SuperDork
10/17/14 12:41 p.m.

The Czar was brought in to manage people/response, so no need to have medical experience.

What we really need right now would be some sort of head of the public health system. We could give him an authoritative name like "Surgeon General" or something...

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/17/14 12:50 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

No one comes in.

If you're in direct contact with a victim here in the states you sit in a box.

If you do not come in direct contact with a patient or their bodily fluids you don't.

It's not that hard.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
10/17/14 1:25 p.m.

OK, I'm absolutely speechless on this: http://christwire.org/2014/08/obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/

Are there people that actually believe this E36 M3? I mean, like really believe it? Because if so.... we're berkeleyed.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/17/14 1:28 p.m.

^LOL that HAS to be a parody site. Has to be.

Edit: Confirmed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christwire

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/17/14 1:30 p.m.

Good article here on why a travel ban would be unprecedented and not such a good idea:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/17/politics/ebola-travel-ban-unprecedented/index.html

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
10/17/14 1:38 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: ^LOL that HAS to be a parody site. Has to be. Edit: Confirmed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christwire

ok.... That makes me feel better. But there's enough of this stupid crap out there you never know anymore!

Cone_Junkie
Cone_Junkie SuperDork
10/17/14 1:47 p.m.

Best part of that article..."Do no forget, the B.O. in Ebola stands for Barack Obama."

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
10/17/14 1:48 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Most of that makes sense, but it would be fairly easy to make an exception for healthcare workers travelling to and from Africa.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/17/14 1:49 p.m.

Thank you for that article. I was suspicious that is what they were talking about when the said it might make it worse.

The news I saw seemed to reporting that they did not want the ban, but did not seem to ever say WHY it might be bad. (more sensational to not say why?)

For those who don't want to read it, it basically says if you ban travel it will encourage people to lie about their travel, making them harder to track. It might also make aid worker less likely to travel since they might be afraid of getting back.

I think the key here is HOW it's transmitted. There is no evidence it's anything but bodily fluids, and there never has been (as far as I know). When they say they don't know how it was transmitted to these people, it does NOT imply that it may be from another means (airborne etc), they mean they don't know how the worker managed to get the fluids on them. (I am sure other means are a consideration, but the strong assumption will be by known means)

One thing good that might come out of this: Maybe people will be a bit more careful in the future about spreading other, less deadly, sicknesses. There is clearly a lot of carelessness in that area.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad HalfDork
10/17/14 2:03 p.m.

Three. Now coming to a port near you aboard the U.S.S. Plagueship.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad HalfDork
10/17/14 2:08 p.m.

Maybe some Dallas healthcare workers could stay bloody home for a couple of weeks!! I can only imagine that at this point they've been to Disney, Grand Cantral Station, Venice Beach, and Yosemite.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/17/14 2:13 p.m.

Unless you get a fake passport, I'm pretty sure it's easy to tell where your coming from. I haven't read the article yet.

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
10/17/14 2:15 p.m.
RX Reven' wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg.
Bhahaha, Ebola has been around forever but the instant some white people are at risk, the E36 M3 gets solved.

You don't believe that, right?

How long do you think it takes to get a vaccine to the human trials stage? Certainly not two weeks. I'm guessing a decade or so.

trucke
trucke HalfDork
10/17/14 2:22 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: OK, I'm absolutely speechless on this: http://christwire.org/2014/08/obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/ Are there people that actually believe this E36 M3? I mean, like really believe it? Because if so.... we're berkeleyed.

Wow! That website is really wacked. The articles read more like a tabloid.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UberDork
10/17/14 2:28 p.m.
Cone_Junkie wrote: Best part of that article..."Do no forget, the B.O. in Ebola stands for Barack Obama."

Isn't the whole thing Elect Barack Obama Lose America?

trucke
trucke HalfDork
10/17/14 2:29 p.m.
rebelgtp wrote:
Cone_Junkie wrote: Best part of that article..."Do no forget, the B.O. in Ebola stands for Barack Obama."
Isn't the whole thing Elect Barack Obama Lose America?

NICE!

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
10/17/14 2:31 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
RX Reven' wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg.
Bhahaha, Ebola has been around forever but the instant some white people are at risk, the E36 M3 gets solved.
You don't believe that, right? How long do you think it takes to get a vaccine to the human trials stage? Certainly not two weeks. I'm guessing a decade or so.

Sadly, many people DO believe that.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UberDork
10/17/14 3:30 p.m.
trucke wrote:
rebelgtp wrote:
Cone_Junkie wrote: Best part of that article..."Do no forget, the B.O. in Ebola stands for Barack Obama."
Isn't the whole thing Elect Barack Obama Lose America?
NICE!

Thank you, Thank you. I'm here all week.

If you can't laugh at the pending doom, gloom and politics what is the point of living?

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/17/14 4:23 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
RX Reven' wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg.
Bhahaha, Ebola has been around forever but the instant some white people are at risk, the E36 M3 gets solved.
You don't believe that, right? How long do you think it takes to get a vaccine to the human trials stage? Certainly not two weeks. I'm guessing a decade or so.

Hi dculberson,

I hope this doesn’t come across sounding snarky or defensive but I’ve actually worked in the medical device industry for over a decade, teach FDA compliance, and hold multiple professional certifications on the subject so yes, I do understand how long it takes.

It seems to me that you’re helping to make my case…what are the odds of a decade long (you own words) development project somehow miraculously coming to fruition just as the threat spills into the West.

I’m on the device side not the pharma side so I’m not following this specific development closely but I imagine the pharmaceuticals have been on a slow development path for a long time and an emergency waiver has been requested to expedite limited approval for human use in response to the current threat.

I’m not necessarily critical of this, I’m simply making an observation.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/14 6:58 p.m.
RX Reven' wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg.
Bhahaha, Ebola has been around forever but the instant some white people are at risk, the E36 M3 gets solved.

Who says they were white?

1 man has died. Mr. Duncan was a Liberian. Pretty good chance he's not white.

I've never heard what skin color the nurses are. Have you?

With all due respect regarding your professional experience, my own observation of your comment was that it was unnecessary, and made a rather useless racial stereotype which had absolutely nothing to do with your professional experience.

In fact, it was rather unprofessional.

Just an observation.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/14 7:00 p.m.

How about we just say the US responded when it became apparent there was a risk to the US?

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