I don't care what they are. They're tasty
I don't care what they are. They're tasty
Bobzilla wrote: I don't care what they are. They're tasty
No, no, no... you are thinking of
nope... fried Orca in whale blubber with a touch of Cajun seasoning? Fantastic.
yamaha wrote: In reply to Will: Werd, its a damn orca.......
If it swims like a fish and quacks like a fish guess what?
I'm betting you could give the camera to a different crew and they could make a documentary that would have average idiot clamoring to put them all in cages.
The news companies can't even report the news honestly. Do you really expect anyone to make an honest documentary.
Grain of salt.
aircooled wrote:
Brilliant. I would have never thought to use one of those as bait.
i'll assume this isn't the kind of show that someone who used to cheer for the whale hunters on Whale Wars should watch, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUbZJcdlcSc
Alright gonna have the movie in 20 minutes...I'll see what's what.
TRoglodyte wrote:yamaha wrote: In reply to Will: Werd, its a damn orca.......If it swims like a fish and quacks like a fish guess what?
It doesn't really swim like a fish. Fish swing their tails side to side. Cetaceans swing their tails up and down.
and they surface to breathe....
My college roommate was in a band called Nuke the Whales, does that count? 
Who do I see to get my free whale?
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:aircooled wrote:Brilliant. I would have never thought to use one of those as bait.
This guy trumps the lady at the African painted dogs cage.
Will wrote:TRoglodyte wrote:It doesn't really swim like a fish. Fish swing their tails side to side. Cetaceans swing their tails up and down.yamaha wrote: In reply to Will: Werd, its a damn orca.......If it swims like a fish and quacks like a fish guess what?
Yea, they are like....mammals.
Does it swim in water ?
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OK watched the movie. They should really call it "The SeaWorld Conspiracy" or something like that because it's mostly about a history of how SeaWorld and some other parks have systematically been hiding how dangerous the job of working and performing with whales is to the public and trainers themselves, running a disinformation campaign on the negative effects of captivity to the whales, and running coverups when things go horribly wrong. The middle of the film has a sci-fi/horror feel to it that I hope any future Jurassic Park movies will try to emulate.
In the last 10-15 minutes in the movie, it concludes with the idea that we should Free The Whales. It doesn't seem unreasonable, but it feels more like a twist ending that was foreshadowed early on than a well-supported conclusion.
Now am I going to retract what I said before? No. It's a good documentary, but there is no terrible institutionalized whale abuse going on at present and the fact that orcas, like most animals, live a lower quality life in captivity shouldn't be hot news to anyone. I know it's practically a tired meme to compare every problem to the latest genocide, but more people were killed in genocides in the time it took to read this post than all the people and orcas who have died thanks to human-orca interaction throughout history. More life-hours of horrific, intentional human suffering took place in North Korean prison camps since I started this thread than the projected lifespan of every captive orca and dead orca trainer combined. You think it's sad when a baby and mama orca are separated by caretakers? How about when a baby and mama person are separated by some African warlord, and mama gets raped and/or killed and baby is used as a child soldier and/or sex slave. You can bet that happened at least once today. I could go on like this all day before reaching problems that we relatively comfortable people deal with which are still much bigger, like the way we just narrowly averted a global economic collapse and will soon flirt with it again. Search "fukushima aquarium earthquake" for an idea of what that could do to the captive orcas.
The ethical debate of whale captivity is a tiny speck on the problem radar, lost in the background noise between many gigantic blots. I don't think this is remotely worthy of headline media attention right now, and if you do, you should get your priorities straight.
Blackfish = decent documentary.
Importance of whale captivity debate ~= importance of Twerkgate. Background noise too weak to measure with the scale our bigger problems demand. But let's get worked up about this so CNN can sell some eyeballs, since nobody gives a E36 M3 about that other stuff.
Humans are obsessed with manipulating the environment around us, and we are good at damaging or destroying everything we get our hands on. It's a Midas touch of destruction, where rather than gold, everything turns to E36 M3. That's the message of perhaps every documentary ever made.
spitfirebill wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:This guy trumps the lady at the African painted dogs cage.aircooled wrote:Brilliant. I would have never thought to use one of those as bait.
That alligator in the background looks like he already had his fill of babies
FWIW, most of seaworld orlando is wasted space (i.e. a big lake.) If the requirements for Orca care were modified to change tank size and depth (e.g. maybe the "tanks must be at least three times as deep and 15 times as wide as the longest cetacean in the tank") sea world would still have space for an orca display.
Whether they would have the money to drain the lake and build the giant tank is another issue, but I suspect that with the water park and discovery cove they would do just fine during construction.
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