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joey48442
joey48442 UberDork
7/15/12 5:42 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
joey48442 wrote: What I don't get is ass (donkey) is fine to say, but ass (hole) is swearing? So it's just the thought? Joey
Exactly!! If I say "oh crap!" it's fine. But to say the other???? Being pro or against swearing doesn't matter, this still makes no sense. One of my work mates irritates me, I've called him a Joey48442 before. You would be shocked at what I was really thinking.

Why do you hate me?

Joey.

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
7/15/12 6:14 p.m.

Sorry Joey. You're alright.
I might have a man-crush on you.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/15/12 6:40 p.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/berkeley

My favorite part:

False etymologies

One reason that the word berkeley is so hard to trace etymologically is that it was used far more extensively in common speech than in easily traceable written forms. There are several urban-legend false etymologies postulating an acronymic origin for the word. None of these acronyms was ever recorded before the 1960s, according to the authoritative lexicographical work The F-Word, and thus are backronyms. In any event, the word berkeley has been in use far too long for some of these supposed origins to be possible. Some of these urban legends are that the word berkeley came from Irish law. If a couple were caught committing adultery, they would be punished "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge In the Nude", with "berkeleyIN" written on the stocks above them to denote the crime. A similar variant on this theory involves the recording by church clerks of the crime of Forbidden Use of Carnal Knowledge. Another theory is that of a royal permission. During the Black Death in the Middle Ages, towns were trying to control populations and their interactions. Since uncontaminated resources were scarce, many towns required permission to have children. Hence, the legend goes, that couples that were having children were required to first obtain royal permission (usually from a local magistrate or lord) and then place a sign somewhere visible from the road in their home that said "Fornicating Under Consent of King", which was later shortened to "berkeley". This story is hard to document, but has persisted in oral and literary traditions for many years; however, it has been demonstrated to be an urban legend.

No man crush from me, Joey. You are safe if you ever come down here.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof UltraDork
7/15/12 7:04 p.m.

It surprises me how often I hear people swear around children. My wife and I are very aggressive and creatively foul mouthed to each other, but the kids (25 and 23) have only ever heard us swear a few times in their lives.

IMO, it's almost never appropriate to swear around children, and for women only if you know them well enough, even on the shop floor.

poopshovel
poopshovel PowerDork
7/15/12 7:16 p.m.

Never heard my dad curse until I was in my twenties, but I was cursing in the 3rd grade. Makes me wonder if it was really worth all the effort on his part.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/15/12 7:22 p.m.

My kid freely admits to being foul mouthed with her friends but doesn't do it around me. I guess there's comfort in that...

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/15/12 8:25 p.m.

I don't curse around adults.

I'm 34, and still have this mindset.

joey48442
joey48442 UberDork
7/15/12 8:30 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/berkeley My favorite part: False etymologies One reason that the word berkeley is so hard to trace etymologically is that it was used far more extensively in common speech than in easily traceable written forms. There are several urban-legend false etymologies postulating an acronymic origin for the word. None of these acronyms was ever recorded before the 1960s, according to the authoritative lexicographical work The F-Word, and thus are backronyms. In any event, the word berkeley has been in use far too long for some of these supposed origins to be possible. Some of these urban legends are that the word berkeley came from Irish law. If a couple were caught committing adultery, they would be punished "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge In the Nude", with "berkeleyIN" written on the stocks above them to denote the crime. A similar variant on this theory involves the recording by church clerks of the crime of Forbidden Use of Carnal Knowledge. Another theory is that of a royal permission. During the Black Death in the Middle Ages, towns were trying to control populations and their interactions. Since uncontaminated resources were scarce, many towns required permission to have children. Hence, the legend goes, that couples that were having children were required to first obtain royal permission (usually from a local magistrate or lord) and then place a sign somewhere visible from the road in their home that said "Fornicating Under Consent of King", which was later shortened to "berkeley". This story is hard to document, but has persisted in oral and literary traditions for many years; however, it has been demonstrated to be an urban legend. No man crush from me, Joey. You are safe if you ever come down here.

Oh berkeley! How I wished....

Joey

NGTD
NGTD Dork
7/15/12 8:39 p.m.

I curse quite often, but not around my kids.

If you look into it, many people who follow language development will tell you that languages are constantly evolving and what was unacceptable 30 years ago becomes accepted.

Dropping berkeley into a conversation in 20 years from now will just be another adjective.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UberDork
7/15/12 8:48 p.m.
Knurled wrote: I don't curse around adults. I'm 34, and still have this mindset.

You only curse around children?

corytate
corytate Dork
7/15/12 9:34 p.m.
Knurled wrote: I don't curse around adults. I'm 34, and still have this mindset.

samesies, but I am but a wee lad of 23 summers.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/15/12 9:49 p.m.
EvanB wrote:
Knurled wrote: I don't curse around adults. I'm 34, and still have this mindset.
You only curse around children?

SCCA does stand for Spoiled Children Crashing Automobiles, doesn't it?

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UberDork
7/15/12 10:02 p.m.

I always wondered what it stood for...makes sense.

Lesley
Lesley PowerDork
7/15/12 10:16 p.m.

Might as well chime the berkeley in here. I cringe when I hear dumb people use compound swear words in everyday use, you know like "pass me my berkeleyin' smokes", or "berkeley me, it's a hot corksoaker, ain't it?". Such a waste – to me they should be doled out sparingly, or they lose their effect.

oldtin
oldtin SuperDork
7/15/12 10:55 p.m.

Roman Moroni: "You lousy corksuckers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes...like yourselves." "You fargin sneaky bastage!"

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
7/15/12 11:07 p.m.
Lesley wrote: Might as well chime the berkeley in here. I cringe when I hear dumb people use compound swear words in everyday use, you know like "pass me my berkeleyin' smokes", or "berkeley me, it's a hot corksoaker, ain't it?". Such a waste – to me they shou 8) ld be doled out sparingly, or they lose their effect.

You mean stupid cork suckers? Ya know... ' cause the dumb ones can't say a berkeleying word 8)

loosecannon
loosecannon Reader
7/16/12 12:43 a.m.

I went to a private school run by an English guy and had to take a bite out of a bar of soap for saying "bloody". I didn't swear much until I was in my 30's but now use all the swear words to emphasize or to make something funny. Mythbusters proved that swearing allows you to withstand more pain so maybe swearing is a way to alleviate stress?

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
7/16/12 4:24 p.m.

When you berkeley with the berkeleying berkeleyers you berkeleying expect the berkeleying berkeleyers to get berkeleyed up!

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