drainoil
drainoil Reader
3/26/13 8:41 p.m.

Its an 83 model year, 4 spd, water cooled engine. I haven't looked at it yet but First need to know, what, if any towing capacity does a van like this have?

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UltraDork
3/26/13 8:43 p.m.

none.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/26/13 8:58 p.m.

if it were a diesel, it would barely be able to get out of it's own way

Thankfully, repowering with a subaru engine is just a kit away

icaneat50eggs
icaneat50eggs Reader
3/26/13 9:05 p.m.

Stock not only is there no towing there is also no heat. But a subi swap could fix that

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Intern
3/26/13 9:11 p.m.

Let me put it this way: If you get it dirty, you'll really notice the extra weight from the dirt when accelerating. They are that slow.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/26/13 9:11 p.m.

You might want to think about a EuroVan.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/26/13 9:14 p.m.

Now if the trailer had it's own functioning jet propulsion unit you could probably tow that.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/26/13 10:56 p.m.

a vanagon with the poptop westafala caper option is a leisure vehicle... They leisurely go, they leisurely stop, and they leisurely turn.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/26/13 10:59 p.m.

Normally, threads like this are filled with people exaggerating how much a vehicle sucks.

This is not one of those threads.

The only thing slower than a wasserboxer Vanagon is a diesel Vanagon. This includes the old air-cooled buses in the calculations.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Dork
3/26/13 11:53 p.m.

In reply to Knurled:

Even the 36 HP bus?

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
3/26/13 11:57 p.m.

The 36hp one had gear reduction boxes in the ends of the axles to help give it some get up and go.

And yes, still better than a diesel.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/27/13 8:03 a.m.

With a boring 2.2 Subaru swap, they'll climb Pike's Peak, cruise at 75 mph and drive normally enough. I've never actually driven a Vanagon with the stock engine, come to think of it.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
3/27/13 8:10 a.m.

I have. You know how you warm up a car on cold days? I used to put it in gear and send it up the street, then go in the house and collect up my stuff. That way, it would have 5 minutes or so to accelerate before I jumped in.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltraDork
3/27/13 8:23 a.m.

Seldom everybody agrees on something around here. I'm shocked nobody has defended them yet.

I love the "spoon in a bowl of oatmeal" shifter action, myself.

JThw8
JThw8 PowerDork
3/27/13 8:25 a.m.

As already noted, the only reason to buy a wasserboxer vanagon is to do a subie swap.

That being said, I'd love to find one cheap so I can do the swap.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/27/13 9:03 a.m.

and the only thing that pops heads faster and more often than a subaru.. is a VW wasserboxer engine. Expect about 60,000 miles between headgaskets.

A good thing though.. if you get a diesel vanagon.. most of the regular inline VW engines will bolt up to the bellhousing. I am not sure if it will fit, but I bet a 1.8t would be fun

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/27/13 9:27 a.m.
JThw8 wrote: As already noted, the only reason to buy a wasserboxer vanagon is to do a subie swap. That being said, I'd love to find one cheap so I can do the swap.

My coworker Brandon did a Subaru swap on a $500 Westy. An air-cooled, so he's had to deal with adding a radiator and heat and the like. He's now got about $7000 and two years in it. It still kinda feels like a $500 bus in some ways, although it was a pretty good $500 bus.

Meanwhile, for $7000, I bought one that already had a Subaru swap. And mine feels more like a $7000 bus. Let someone else do the work

In their defense, the packaging of the Vanagon is really good. And they're hilarious to drive. It always puts a smile on my face. Although the towing capacity of mine with the Subaru engine is limited to bikes on the bike rack. And this is from a guy who used a 38 rwhp Land Rover to tow a 1960's Cadillac across town.

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