ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
1/10/12 8:45 p.m.

I am considering power upgrades to my little 125cc honda and it pretty much comes down to two paths.

Buy a crankshaft, rod, piston, jug and cylinderhead from an early 80's XR200. Machine the case to fit the jug and put it all together with who knows what carb for a 17hp 200cc. Looks like that will set me back almost $600 unless I can find a whole xr200 cheap (not likely)

Buy an off the shelf Lifan 200cc motor. 16-17hp with CDI, carb, 12V electronics, electric start and everything for around $500 landed.

Sure it's a chinese clone but it is really tempting. Google turns up positive experiences and people with no experience saying they are crap.

Timeormoney
Timeormoney Reader
1/14/12 9:47 a.m.

It looks like you may be the GRM pioneer on this motor. It sounds like a great idea.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe HalfDork
1/14/12 9:49 a.m.

I had one of there 150cc singles in a small hardtail chopper. Thing ran like a beast, will need a really big muffler though they are unbelievably loud.

More then a few people have major 20K miles on them, I would suggest buying the higher power CDI box and leaving it kickstart if you have the space.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/14/12 10:08 a.m.

No experience with them over here in the US, but in the UK the problem was always spares supply for these motors.

44Dwarf
44Dwarf Dork
1/14/12 10:54 a.m.

Lifan is one of the better "cheap" knock off brands. From what i've heard they used to cast alot of parts for the large "S" brand from Japan.

I do know a guy with boat loads of XR200 stuff....

Graefin10
Graefin10 HalfDork
1/14/12 1:58 p.m.

I joined a forum for one of the Bobber bikes, don't recall which one just so I could ask about the Lifan engines they use. I got nothing but very positve response for the 125, 200, & 250 twin.

How about the Chinese 2 stroke engines. Does anyone here know anything about them?

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
1/14/12 2:10 p.m.

This is good news. A week of googling has turned up a million "It is chinese, therefore it is crap" references and a few dozen "Really good little motors"

I think it is the way forward. I need to sell off a few things and order one.

Graefin10
Graefin10 HalfDork
1/14/12 2:27 p.m.

In reply to ditchdigger:

If you will post the link for the engine, and related parts for $500. The site I was on a few days ago was more that that. They did have prettier pictures though.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
1/14/12 3:21 p.m.

Can't seem to find the really cheap option yet but these guys are close enough to me to pick it up.

http://www.hooperimports.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=04

529 for the OHV or 549 for OHC 200s

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
1/14/12 3:52 p.m.

You can't go wrong with the Lifans. Their motors are some of the better Chinese stuff. Not all of it is bad. Again, check out Chinariders. You may find a good source for reasonably priced ones there.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
3/24/12 5:37 a.m.
Zomby woof wrote: You can't go wrong with the Lifans. Their motors are some of the better Chinese stuff. Not all of it is bad. Again, check out Chinariders. You may find a good source for reasonably priced ones there.

This is true, I have one in my mini-motard...14 hp lifan makes my tiny super motard a BLAST! And if you blow the engine, buy another one!

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
3/24/12 5:38 a.m.
CLNSC3 wrote:
Zomby woof wrote: You can't go wrong with the Lifans. Their motors are some of the better Chinese stuff. Not all of it is bad. Again, check out Chinariders. You may find a good source for reasonably priced ones there.
This is true, I have one in my mini-motard...14 hp lifan makes my tiny super motard a BLAST! And if you blow the engine, buy another one!

This is where I got mine, good people....

http://www.pccmotor.com/engine.html

(I have no affiliation with company besides having bought a few things from them)

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