Who the hell designs the seats for bikes? Do they have a hard on for pain?
Who the hell designs the seats for bikes? Do they have a hard on for pain?
It takes some trial and error to get a saddle you like and works for you. On my bikes, the ones most people seem to like are made by Terry or WTB. Never make the mistake of buying a giant gel padded saddle because those are usually the least comfortable after a couple of miles. You can buy padded bike shorts if you ride for long periods of time to help.
Also, your butt isn't used to sitting on a bicycle for long periods of time. The more you ride, the less it hurts. I regularly ride 50+ miles, and Angry just did two 100 mile days in a row. Your back and shoulders hurt more than your bum after those rides.
Dyintorace gave me a spare seat of his that is really nice. It's pretty hard and a bit narrow, but the gel seat I had before meant that I was sitting "in" the seat rather than on it. With the hard seat it's a lot easier for me to shift my weight a bit and to get out of the saddle to pedal harder.
You would think that with the erectile dysfunction, prostate damage and all, that the bike saddle would have changed by now.
I remember back in the 90's there was one that just had two pads for the ass cheeks and nothing else. It felt nice when I tested one.
Yep here it is
But it doesn't look fast so this punishing thing will continue to be popular
Best Dilbert ever.
Here's my question about bikes (or rather the people who ride them):
Why do they glare at EVERYONE? Runners? How dare you not harness the power of the machine peasent! Drivers? Lazy slob, care about your environment more!
Because we're constantly on the verge of being killed by vehicles, and runners are usually too high on endorphins to notice what's around them.
ditchdigger wrote: You would think that with the erectile dysfunction, prostate damage and all, that the bike saddle would have changed by now. I remember back in the 90's there was one that just had two pads for the ass cheeks and nothing else. It felt nice when I tested one. Yep here it is
I'll take the one in the top picture. The other one scares the E36 M3 out of me.
I know! I mean all aerodynamics are out of the question when my lard ass is on top and in the way of the wind so why does a saddle need to be some SR71 blackbird looking thing. Why does it need to be a long penis looking thing? Really? All that thing does is irritate my nards.
If I were to design something to sit on during a strenuous activity it sure wouldn't look like a bike saddle. I know I don't sit on my taint whenever possible, do you? If that were the case then chairs would just be sections of pipe.
thats the beauty of the modern bike seat...IT CAN BE CHANGED. Go get a john deere tractor saddle if you want it. You put a new shift knob on your car so it feels better right? same thing.
ditchdigger wrote: But it doesn't look fast so this punishing thing will continue to be popular
Is this where I make a joke about the sort of people who ride bicycles being the sort of people who'd want something that looks like that coming at them between their legs from behind?
ditchdigger wrote: If I were to design something to sit on during a strenuous activity it sure wouldn't look like a bike saddle. I know I don't sit on my taint whenever possible, do you? If that were the case then chairs would just be sections of pipe.
Actually if you look at the saddle you posted you'll notice it has two higher prominences on the rear of the saddle, with a dip in between, and a long lower nose. If the saddle fits right, your taint is off the saddle, and you sit on the two lowest bony prominences of your hips. The reason a longer nose is always featured on saddles is it can help control the bike by allowing you to shift weight and steer through your thighs exerting pressure on it. It also helps keep you in a stable position and not rock back and forth like a goofball.
Most of the saddles that don't actually look like a bike saddle were designed by people who have never spent considerable time atop one.
bastomatic wrote:ditchdigger wrote: If I were to design something to sit on during a strenuous activity it sure wouldn't look like a bike saddle. I know I don't sit on my taint whenever possible, do you? If that were the case then chairs would just be sections of pipe.Actually if you look at the saddle you posted you'll notice it has two higher prominences on the rear of the saddle, with a dip in between, and a long lower nose. If the saddle fits right, your taint is off the saddle, and you sit on the two lowest bony prominences of your hips. The reason a longer nose is always featured on saddles is it can help control the bike by allowing you to shift weight and steer through your thighs exerting pressure on it. It also helps keep you in a stable position and not rock back and forth like a goofball. Most of the saddles that don't actually look like a bike saddle were designed by people who have never spent considerable time atop one.
^ what he said.
i did six hours in the saddle on saturday and six hours on sunday. my saddle looks just like the one that got gay-bashed a couple posts back. if the saddle is wide enough to support the rider's pelvis and has the groove down the center, there is no weight on the taint or the junk. as stated by bastomatic, the nose of the saddle is there to keep the rider from moving too much side to side and to enable bike control through side force from the thighs.
consider the range through which the upper leg travels during a pedal stroke. a saddle with a longer (front/rear) "seating surface" under each butt cheek would hinder the down stroke, and the rider would have to shift forward on that saddle to alleviate that hindrance.
form follows function. the seats on exercise bikes are made to hold big fat asses in one riding position for relatively brief periods of time. or, if Lance was faster on the two piece noseless saddle, then that's what Trek would sell.
Drewsifer wrote: Here's my question about bikes (or rather the people who ride them): Why do they glare at EVERYONE? Runners? How dare you not harness the power of the machine peasent! Drivers? Lazy slob, care about your environment more!
maybe because we've got sweat in our eyes and our hearts are going 180 bpm and we have to see every irregularity or piece of debris on the riding surface because we don't want to be killed by a dually fender, a trailer, a mirror, or an inattentive driver.
or maybe we just berkeleying hate you.
bastomatic wrote: Most of the saddles that don't actually look like a bike saddle were designed by people who have never spent considerable time atop one.
Or are designed by or for the 90 percent of cyclists who are more casual riders and aren't trying to extract every last bit of control from their bikes.
I do know where you are coming from though. Now that you put the thought into my head I am thinking of all the comfort bike riders that just seem not in control of their bikes and they all have wide short sprung seats.
One of the noseless saddles popped up on cl last night with this description
CL seller said: It is definitely not like a normal seat. You would only want this seat if you really hated normal seats and needed a way different alternative.
I guess he didn't like it.
AngryCorvair wrote:Drewsifer wrote: Here's my question about bikes (or rather the people who ride them): Why do they glare at EVERYONE? Runners? How dare you not harness the power of the machine peasent! Drivers? Lazy slob, care about your environment more!maybe because we've got sweat in our eyes and our hearts are going 180 bpm and we have to see every irregularity or piece of debris on the riding surface because we don't want to be killed by a dually fender, a trailer, a mirror, or an inattentive driver. or maybe we just berkeleying hate you.
So glare at the Drivers. We runners are in the same boat as you guys. Just last week I had I to jump off the road to not get run over. We're on the same team!
In reply to Drewsifer:
well the road usually isnt the best place for runners.
if you want a big seat and still be comfortable find yourself a recumbent bike...
i'm a 300# guy and that saddle above is only about 10-20mm to narrow for me...
as for padded shorts... skip those and find a unitard... er I mean bibs... they are a godsend for those fat riders...
fritzsch wrote: In reply to Drewsifer: well the road usually isnt the best place for runners.
same can be said for riders... the trail is so much more fun 
but road riding is a lot closer then trail riding :(
fritzsch wrote: In reply to Drewsifer: well the road usually isnt the best place for runners.
And it's any more a place for a bike? I'll stay on the track if every bike rider rides only in designated lanes from now on. Sound fair?
Bicycles are vehicles, so the entire road is thiers too. It's just the dummies that decide to use the whole thing.
"Share the road" works both ways.
I love riding my bike, but I avoid riding on the street at all costs. Same reason I rode motocross for for 16 years but wouldn't ride a street bike...too dangerous.
In reply to Drewsifer:
im saying if you run, run on a sidewalk or something. i had track practice indoors and its terribly boring to run on a track i would never do it if i had a choice. side walks are for pedestrians and runners and such. but its entirely unfair to compare biking on the street to running on the street. i also believe bikers should either bike in the bike lane or sidewalk. no one ever walks on sidewalks unless you are in the main part of town so usually its fine to bike on them. i just cant see any justification though for ever running on the street. if there isnt sidewalk there is probably grass or something which is better on the knees
Drewsifer wrote: Here's my question about bikes (or rather the people who ride them): Why do they glare at EVERYONE? Runners? How dare you not harness the power of the machine peasent! Drivers? Lazy slob, care about your environment more!
Over the last few days I've been purposefully glaring at every runner I've with whom I've crossed paths.
wjones wrote:Drewsifer wrote: Here's my question about bikes (or rather the people who ride them): Why do they glare at EVERYONE? Runners? How dare you not harness the power of the machine peasent! Drivers? Lazy slob, care about your environment more!Over the last few days I've been purposefully glaring at every runner I've with whom I've crossed paths.
I'm gonna throw rocks at every biker I see now 
I got my sit-bones measured and picked myself up a Specialized Body Geometry Sport seat. Looks fast, but feels great.
Best $65 I spent on my bike in a long time.
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