pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
8/13/14 10:21 a.m.

I saw something this morning that the Full Sized van was introduced in 1969. I thought the van had been around a lot longer than that, but before the Econoline and Club Wagon were introduced, vans were considered mid-sized or compact. Weird. Here's to the full sized van, may you soon rest in peace.

Richard Nixon
Richard Nixon SuperDork
8/13/14 10:33 a.m.

Well, at least you got your Fords right today.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/13/14 1:15 p.m.

Well, that's a Ford specific Wikipedia page. At that, it's claiming the early Econoline vans that were "compact" vans because they were Falcon based, and didn't become real or full sized vans until they were put on a truck chassis.

That claim very carefully ignores lorries and the entire history of cargo trucks and wagons. The notion of an enclosed box on wheels goes back for about as far as we've had boxes and wheels.

Because really, I'm sure these are vans, even if they go by other names:

drainoil
drainoil Reader
8/13/14 4:29 p.m.

I can haul more people and/or gear, equipment what have you in my fs van than my buddy can in his Suburban. He cant easily remove all back seats and have a completely flat floor like my van. Having 4wd is nice but I know he's hardly ever used it.

There will always be the need for a van so long as contractors, plumbers and electricians, etc are around.

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
8/13/14 6:10 p.m.

In reply to drainoil: Yes, but now Ford, GM, Ram, and Nissan all have transit connect size vehicles. Also Dodge/Ram is now on their second euro van and ford is replacing the econoline with the tranit leaving GM as the last FS "american"/truck based van.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/13/14 8:27 p.m.

and there are still full sized like vehicles. Ford has the big Transit, Nissan has a big (and ugly) van like thing, and fiat/Chrysler has their version of the big MB van

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