Why not a time trial series for old cop cars? | Spec P71

David S.
By David S. Wallens
Jun 17, 2022 | Panther, p71, Time Trials | Posted in Features | From the Nov. 2021 issue | Never miss an article

Photography Credit: Cali Photography

What does it take to create a racing program these days? How about a dream and a nearly endless supply of

inexpensive, long-wearing donor cars?

Brett Madsen, an SCCA autocross national champ with a pair of high-output Mustangs in the stable, came up with Spec P71, a Southern California time attack series for decommissioned Ford police cruisers and similar sedans.

These Ford sedans are basically big, comfortable, long-wearing Miatas, he explains. “It’s slow, it body rolls, but good God is it fun at the limit and fun to compete with,” he says of his personal ex-cop car. “It’s also the most reliable of the three cars that I own–120,000 miles on it, and I got it with 85,000. A lot of those miles were track miles, and I haven’t had to touch anything on the engine at all. It just keeps chugging along like it’s nobody’s business.”

The series welcomes the 1992-2011 Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car. Power must come from the two-valve, 4.6-liter  V8 engine, and a $4000 claim rule is in place to limit creativity.

Brett recommends running the 2005-and-up cars, as they received an improved unequal-length,  double-wishbone front suspension–also known as short long arms, or SLA for short. He went with a 2006 Crown Vic.

Photography Credit: Cali Photography

“We were absolutely surprised when we took the car to get aligned,” he reports. “We were able to get 3.1 degrees of negative camber out of it. That level of camber made the front end even more controllable.”

In addition to the later chassis, Brett recommends a P71-spec police car fitted with the 3.55:1 final drive and limited-slip differential.

He figures $1500 to $2000 can buy a good example of a black-and-white police cruiser–he recently helped someone score the perfect car for $1625 out the door via GovDeals–but budget $3000 or more for an unmarked car. “Everyone is welcome to buy the undercovers, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a cheap track car that you can push to the limits without worry,” he says.

Spec P71 is all about simplicity: pretty much bone-stock, decommissioned police cars running true street tires. The most significant speed equipment you’ll find in the series? Probably the race seats, which are bolt-in mods. The rules mandate a $4000 claim rule. Photography Credits: Reyes Delacruz

The rules allow for a few upgrades–easy stuff llike hood vents, deep-sump transmission pans and upgraded rear control arms–but entries must run stock wheels from the later cars. A proper bucket seat is a worthy upgrade, and Brett notes that Planted Technology brackets can mate a standard side- or bottom-mount race seat to the Ford chassis.

“Even for an outrageously tall person like me, there’s still plenty of room,” he continues. “On top of this, their brackets come welded with a tab for the stock seat belt receiver if you don’t end up wanting to put a roll bar and harness in right away. Currently with the time attack stuff, we’re all just running the stock three-point seat belts.”

The series requires a tire treadwear rating of at least 260, the stock spec. “If driven hard, they’ll last maybe one or two events before you’ll need to replace them,” Brett says of the stock-type tires. “They like to delaminate very quickly in my tests.

Brett runs the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500–plenty of grip and life, he says. It’s a 340tw model that retails for about $630 per set in the mandated 235/55R17 size. “They definitely scream at you when you ask too much of them,” he notes. “The tire adds to the whole idea of the learner series, basically giving you a forgiving tire that can also teach you the boundaries of what it can do at a low risk.”Brakes have proved long-lasting as well. And when it’s time to replace them? Brett reports that all-new hardware cost him less than $200 complete through his local Ford dealership.

These Ford Panther chassis feature double-wishbone front suspension and offer solid handling and long tire life (just like big Miatas). Photography Credits: Cali Photography

“These cars are truly fantastic to drive at the limit,” he says. “SLA front suspension with a four-link/Watts rear suspension makes this thing super comfortable at the limit of tire adhesion, and if you go over, it’s so easy to bring it back under control.

“You could honestly bring out your bone-stock Crown Victoria and race with us.” Just add personal safety gear and a seat, Brett figures, and you’re ready to hit the track.

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preach (fs)
preach (fs) GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/4/21 7:59 a.m.

2.4 hours of LeMullets.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/4/21 8:24 a.m.

I've had three panthers, the last a 95 P71. I'd love to see this here in Florida. I'd have to give serious consideration to participating. 
 

The article says that it is a southern California series, but they are running them in the Midwest.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/4/21 8:46 a.m.

Cool.

Someone needs to set to set one of those up as Ex-Police from SNL.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
10/4/21 8:47 a.m.

Such a great way to enjoy an inexpensive car!  

In the midwest, there is Spec Panther

Video

GRM connection:  You might recognize the current class leader, Rick Hoback as the guy behind the wheel of the Joe Burchett, Challenge Subaru MicoVan.

https://www.facebook.com/specpanther

 

Yes, that's a pink doughnut with sprinkles on car #66

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
10/4/21 8:51 a.m.

That's awesome! But I feel like the supply of these is going to start drying up soon, police haven't used them for years and they're aging out of any remaining fleets fast.

jharry3
jharry3 GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/4/21 9:09 a.m.

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STM317
STM317 UberDork
10/4/21 9:39 a.m.
dculberson said:

That's awesome! But I feel like the supply of these is going to start drying up soon, police haven't used them for years and they're aging out of any remaining fleets fast.

The demo derby guys are all about them too. Won't be many shells left in good shape before long. They look fantastic with those Mustang wheels in the trailer shot.

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
10/4/21 10:24 a.m.

What about Police Spec Dodge Chargers?  Most cities in my area are using them. Newer and more availability. 

Cactus
Cactus HalfDork
10/4/21 12:56 p.m.

I've got a good argument against them: the transmission is awful. You need to put a giant cooler on the car to ensure you can do more than a single lap. Also, flooring it 2 seconds before you get to the apex in anticipation of the kickdown is unnatural.

 

I'm a big fan of running what you brung, and they're fun to haul around a track, but if you thought stock Miatas were slow...

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit UltraDork
10/4/21 1:26 p.m.
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) said:

What about Police Spec Dodge Chargers?  Most cities in my area are using them. Newer and more availability. 

Around here they are in the $8K -$10K bit pricey for a toy.

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