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sanyarcosean
sanyarcosean Reader
5/18/17 5:47 a.m.

Hey, thats today!! Pic or it didn't happen...

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/17 10:53 a.m.
sanyarcosean wrote: Hey, thats today!! Pic or it didn't happen...

Impala included for proof of it being home

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Cooter
Cooter HalfDork
5/18/17 10:58 a.m.

Yeah. That Ghia nose probably isn't going to work out. [/obvious man]

sanyarcosean
sanyarcosean Reader
5/18/17 11:02 a.m.
Cooter wrote: Yeah. That Ghia nose probably isn't going to work out. [/obvious man]

Although Pat could almost use it as a make shift garage...

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/17 11:17 a.m.

Ghia nose $200 obo?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/17 2:09 p.m.

Don't get rid of it too quickly, at least not for $200. Maybe you can section it down and use it as a temporary solution. I'm fairly certain that was the original plan for it.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/17 2:15 p.m.

Possile leads: Lots of D-B Panhard stuff with names in HP back in 1959.

SCCA 1959

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
5/18/17 2:21 p.m.

In reply to Woody:

Wouldn't a DB Panhard be a Deutsch Bonnet Panhard?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/17 2:57 p.m.
alfadriver wrote: In reply to Woody: Wouldn't a DB Panhard be a Deutsch Bonnet Panhard?

Yes, but I'm thinking that it was probably a small circle of racers.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/17 3:39 p.m.

Seller just texted that the Oregon guy gave his contact info to a Panhard club and now his phone and email has exploded with offers sight unseen from as far as the Netherlands. He asked if i wanted any of the emails before he deleted them, I can't. It's too cool and I'm emotionally invested at this point.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltimaDork
5/18/17 3:44 p.m.

But the emails may be a source of parts. Mass email all the emails he sends you, and state that the car is being restored, not sold. But that you want parts, and welcome any leads.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem HalfDork
5/18/17 3:46 p.m.

Pat... Have you been able to locate any serial numbers?

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/17 3:57 p.m.

That's gone. I know where the plate is supposed to be, and it's gone. The firewall was replaced along the way and it appears they didn't care about leaving the tag in

From the internet i know which ones it isn't, i'm just not sure which one it is. I'm hoping the book I ordered can shed a pinch more light on it

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/17 9:19 p.m.

Find more old racer names here:

Bahamas Speed Weeks 1956

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/17 10:05 p.m.

Between the bahamas list, the 1956 scca national championship list, I have the original racing numbers of 5 of the cars. I wonder if it's under the yellow and could be found by gently hand sanding the layers.

I've decided I don't think it's right to change the tail. It appears it was done mid 60's at latest and to me it would take away from the history of the car. It's actually pretty well done and looks better in person than pictures. Not everything needs to go back to original, racecars lead crazy lives and it would take away from the soul of the car to change something that's been part of it for 75+% of its existence

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
5/19/17 6:54 a.m.

In reply to patgizz:

That last part is really important- it's always interesting to read race car restorations where the owner had to make a big decision of what version they want to represent. Do you go with the original, do you go with the period that made that car iconic, one specific race that was important, or like you- cut off the development at it's realistic apex- when the car stopped being a race car?

It's a tough decision.

One interesting aspect is the sanding of the layers of paint. What will you find? How do you take it off so that you can see what's there?

Actually, I was thinking, too about the frame. Given it's so small, some of the backyard chemical solutions (like vinegar or the fluid sold in GRM/CM) seems to be a good choice to start- and then use an abrasive later. So IF there are some indicators left in the chassis, you can find them.

One of the many reasons why this project is so interesting.

sanyarcosean
sanyarcosean Reader
5/19/17 9:42 a.m.

Hey Pat, try some EZ-Off Oven cleaner in a small space on the body ( Away from where you think you may find something important to you ) Let the EZ-Off set until it starts to bubble the paint, then was it off with water. Aaron had pretty good luck on his Karmann Ghia removing a layer at a time and if you are careful ( read that to mean quick ) you wont damage the next layer down.

Don49
Don49 HalfDork
5/28/17 10:16 p.m.

Pat,

The Panhard guy is : Jim Bandy 3oh4 two69 one 57two

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/29/17 11:57 a.m.
Don49 wrote: Pat, The Panhard guy is : Jim Bandy 3oh4 two69 one 57two

Got an email from him in my inbox

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