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captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
9/27/18 9:01 a.m.

I'm dancing between sticking with SM or XP rules. I want to keep the car competitive, but at a local level we rarely have many people show up to play in the SM sandbox. Usually whatever shows up isn't built to the rules so much as they got put there because of a motor swap. If I go into XP there is usually 4-5 guys running and it's super competitive. I think that's where I want to be, and that allows me to cut stuff. The biggest issue I have is that I don't have a way to haul the car to events right now. Eventually I'm going to have to figure out a trailer situation so I can commit 100% to XP rules with lexan windows, gutted doors, and fiberglass everywhere. I know of a guy that had his down to almost 1600 lbs which is bonkers. If I can get the car to 2000 lbs with turbo I'll be happy.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
9/27/18 8:51 p.m.

I spent some time cleaning up my mess and tried to do a bit more organizing to get a second parts shelf put together. Last week I ordered a couple super cheap wall mounted tire racks from Amazon for 29.99 ea. Watching Senior AxeHealey put a home made job up pushed me to get them both in action this evening. Now I have room to get the other rack together, and get the kiddos crap into a storage shed of some sort.

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AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/28/18 7:31 a.m.

In reply to captainawesome :

Is one not allowed to drive on the street with lexan and gutted doors because I do it often...

$30 for the wheel racks?? How dumb am I for torturing myself with the 2x4s! angry

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
9/28/18 7:42 a.m.
AxeHealey said:

In reply to captainawesome :

Is one not allowed to drive on the street with lexan and gutted doors because I do it often...

$30 for the wheel racks?? How dumb am I for torturing myself with the 2x4s! angry

I can legally do all of that from what I can tell on the street. My commute to and from my local autocross is about 40 minutes of interstate, so I do have to leave some creature comfort items until I am able to trailer it. Windows that roll up and a heater/defrost. Our events start in March and end in November with a fairly extreme weather difference in the early and late months.


Yeah, I can't believe the racks were so cheap. I planned to make my own, but just couldn't beat the price. Now I just need to get something to cover them to keep UV out.

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/1/18 7:45 a.m.

Ah, I get that for sure. Mine has become less and less enjoyable on the street as it has become more and more of a race car.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/1/18 7:58 a.m.

More parts removed, another 35 lbs lost. Going to start wire wheeling the floor pans this week, and start the process of welding in metal from the hood I pulled off. First I need to remove or drop the fuel lines directly where I need to cut it out.

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captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/4/18 7:46 a.m.

Some methodical cutting of the driver side floor pan has commenced. Unfortunately I'm making too much noise, so it will wait for the weekend. Instead of sitting on my thumbs I decided to go ahead and start prepping the m10/trans to be pulled. Tonight I'll disconnect the driveshaft and pull it all out.

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captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/8/18 10:43 a.m.

Last week I was hoping to get the motor/trans pulled, but didn't quite make that happen. The driveshaft and exhaust were pulled, and then I noticed the K&N sticker on the airbox. I don't know how it's gone unnoticed up until then, but at least I get to throw a few bucks back in the budget, so that's nice. This Friday I have a vacation day scheduled so I can focus on patching the floor pans. All this week leading up to "patch day", I plan to focus on getting the drivetrain pulled, dropping the fuel tanks and lines, and generally anything necessary to aid in floor pan work. In a perfect world I would be dropping the m42 in place to fabricate motor mounts Friday afternoon, but I know that's not going to happen. I hate sheetmetal work, I'll be using flux core, and I really hate sheetmetal work. It's almost guaranteed I'll want to burn the car to the ground about 2 minutes into getting started.

Saturday I did get to do about 30 minutes of laps in at the Tulsa Xtreme cart place. It was fun lapping some friends and the wife. After that session it had me plotting a 4 point cage for some HPDE at Hallett, and the wife assured me it made sense. It sure is nice to have a supportive wife.

 

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Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/8/18 11:38 a.m.

Everytime I see your post I think how I suck at being a BMW owner. 

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/8/18 11:44 a.m.
Stampie said:

Everytime I see your post I think how I suck at being a BMW owner. 

I don't feel like I'm gaining any traction honestly. You've painted a whole car, and that to me seems like much more work than unbolting parts and weighing them.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/8/18 1:21 p.m.

In reply to captainawesome :

Yeah but I haven’t touched the BMW in the 18 months I’ve owned it. 

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/9/18 8:37 a.m.

I made a mess last night. The m10/trans are out now and I've started pulling the flywheel stuff to see if I can manage to use it for a lightweight option for the m42 that's taking it's place. The internet says it should work, and yet it also says it can't. I should know for sure tonight, once I clean up my tools and mess. Either way I'll at least need a pressure plate because this one has some interesting wear marks. I'm hoping the throwout bearing from the m42 is still good, but my guess is that I'll need to order one to be on the safe side. I'll get some weights for everything later. There is some concern about the flywheel being on the small size. I've read that they will hold around 200(I think). I'll probably be in the 175 range with the smaller turbo I plan to run, so hoping it will be okay.

 

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AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/9/18 9:46 a.m.

Nice progress man.

Not only do we have the (close to) same car...we're about to have the same tire racks. My rickety-ass build lost to gravity. Can't say I'm surprised.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/9/18 10:10 a.m.
AxeHealey said:

Nice progress man.

Not only do we have the (close to) same car...we're about to have the same tire racks. My rickety-ass build lost to gravity. Can't say I'm surprised.

At least it wasn't an expensive lesson. Mine appear to be holding just fine, but I am still paranoid about hanging that much weight on the wall.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/10/18 8:41 a.m.

Last night was dedicated to making the m10 flywheel work with the m42. With the m42 dual mass flywheel/pressure plate/bolts weighing in at 38 lbs and the m10 single mass stuff at 28 lbs, it's obvious this is a great idea. It doesn't cost as much as sourcing an m20 single mass, and actually weighs less. The friction surface for both the m42 and the m10 are the same, so I have high hopes this will be able to handle the small amount of boost I plan to add in the near future.

Anyway, three of the bellhousing bolts on the m42 trans didn't let loose and the heads were rounded off. BMW decided to start using these silly 8 point type heads, so it's not difficult to screw them all up. After welding nuts to all of them, they broke free and on to flywheel land. I'm pretty sure I can use all of the m10 hardware which are standard 6 point.

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After pulling all the flywheel/clutch stuff it was time to compare the two. Just like mentioned elsewhere, it all looks doable. The difference in ring gear distance between the m10 and m42 is ~1.74mm with the m10 being closer to the block. The fork engagement with the throwout bearing is ~3mm shorter with the m10. If you try to mount the m10 flywheel directly to the m42 it immediately fouls the rear main seal housing bolts. They stick past the crank flange just ever so slightly.

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My first solution was to try using some low profile allen heads I had laying around to see if they would clear. These are stainless, so they would need anti-seize or I should consider getting hardware that won't weld itself to it's little threaded friend hole.

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I got out my feeler gauges to check bolt clearance to the flywheel and got .43mm. My first thought was that's great, but I still would like to get the m10 ring gear closer to the m42 distance. When you swap a single mass m20 flywheel, you drill a couple rivets on the m42 flywheel to remove a little spacer, and that is used as a shim for bolt clearance. So out came the drill. The spacer for this aftermarket LUK flywheel measured in at 2.79mm, which put the ring gear about 1mm past the m42 spot. I think that's a reasonable difference, and this allows me to put the stock bolts back to the rear main seal housing and skip the low profile stainless steel ones. Even better, is that the throwout bearing height ends up at the roughly the same as the m42 stuff. Yeehaw! This is going to work.

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Now the question is whether I want to try and swap the bendix on the m10 starter with the m42 one. They are slightly different tooth count and diameter. I'm half tempted to try the m42 starter as is with the m10. It's way lighter and smaller in size, making any future repairs much more manageable. The tooth engagement looks decent, but obviously not perfect. I meant to snap some pics of the differences, but it was getting late and my hands were filthy.

Does anyone have any pro tips on how to swap a starter bendix without destroying stuff? I don't see an easy way to get either one off without major surgery and I have found a couple cheap rebuilt starters that are supposed to be a drop in m10 upgrade with better starting power and lighter weight: the sr441x Bosch. With me needing to buy a full clutch kit the budget is getting thin, and the $62 starter put things too tight I think.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/11/18 7:45 a.m.

Not much done last night other than some garage cleanup, organizing, and checking to see if I can swap ring gears between flywheels. The answer is yes and no. The inner diameter of the m10 is just enough that I would need to machine or grind a millimeter or more from the m42 ring to get it to fit. Probably just going to stick with either the m10 starter or spring for the reman one.

 

One thing that sucks about BMW trailing arm suspension is the lack of adjustability. You can buy kits with brackets and eccentric bolts, but they are not budget friendly. Like around $200 for most because the BMW bolts used are around $17-20 EACH before even buying the washers and nuts. So I've found a cheaper solution intended for VW/Audis that still gets me the adjustment I want and effectively cost half of what most places are charging. The eccentrics are just slightly under the size of the ebay brackets, but when turned they rotate and adjust properly without issue. I will be putting a couple spot welds on each one once I get a good alignment figured out.

E30 subframe adjuster brackets : $53.75 (Ebay)

Eccentric bolt # WHT001679 : $27.44 for 4 (FCP Euro)

Eccentric washer # WHT001675 : $8.08 for 4 (FCP Euro)

Nut # N90635001 : $2.76 for 4 (FCP Euro)

Total : $92.02

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captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/12/18 8:13 p.m.

Today was floor pan day. Much like I expected, I didn't get it all finished, but I got a ton of work done. I cut up two pieces and formed them from the dented hood that came with the car. It required scraping off all of the underhood foam, but didn't give me too much fuss. I've got one more spot by the pedal on the driver side and another on the passenger jacking pad that I'll get to later. For now I need to finish getting these plug welded in place. I also scored a cheap set of flywheel bolts that are slightly longer than the m10 so I don't have to cut down all of the m42 ones that are way too long. $3.50 for 9 of them and since I only need 8 it totals $3.11.

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Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/12/18 8:32 p.m.

In reply to captainawesome :

Nice work!

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/16/18 8:59 a.m.

Not much done in the last few days other than studying the wiring harnesses. Had another autocross Sunday and the rest was all family time. The electric door mirrors were removed, and I'll be making blanking plates from pieces of the hood. If I can find some lightweight non-hideous ones to bolt up that would be great specifically for HPDE. Almost forgot I got the m42 up on the engine stand and just about ready to dedicate time to gaskets and refresh. The rest of this week is mostly dedicated to welding in the pan patches that have been made and if possible start making the patch for the pedal area.

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captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/22/18 8:44 a.m.

I didn't get much done most of the week. When passing the empty shell in the garage, I did a quick glance and scurried away. I needed a break anyway. My wife thought I had another autocross Sunday, so I told her it was a good time to get some floor pan work in. She agreed.

I spent the first couple hours starting fires and putting them out with the rubber undercoating being so sensitive to my welding inputs. Once I finished welding in the patches I made the week prior, it was time to cut out the foot area where the pedal hinges. I took some measurements to help me locate the pedal first and cut away. I then spent way too much time fabbing up the hinge bracket, and then scrapping the first piece of patchwork that it would attach to. The second piece worked out okay, so I got it all welded in. The passenger side jacking pad will be next, and it's going to require a little more work higher up into the A pillar zone. I'm hoping to get some time in this week to cut it out and have it patched so all this sheet metal work can end.

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AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/23/18 8:17 a.m.

That gas pedal mount repair is very familiar! Nice work man. 

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/23/18 9:24 a.m.
AxeHealey said:

That gas pedal mount repair is very familiar! Nice work man. 

Yeah, I think that's a common spot for repair. I looked back on your thread and see that someone did the large patch by the rocker on yours as well. I'm just hoping I can keep mine sealed up and prevent this from happening again anytime soon. Spot welding was probably not the best method, but seam welding this all with flux core sounds like a nightmare. Halfway thought about riveting it to be honest.

I finally decided to gut more of the interior for the never ending weight loss pursuit. Dash is coming out and the cluster will have a couple small brackets until after the challenge when I can spend a few bucks on gauges. The whole heater and blower system will be removed. After the challenge I'll probably put in an a small 7 pound hot rod heater or just a windshield heater to prevent fog. The blower box shroud in the engine bay is getting cut out, and I'm going to pull the full harness to get reduced down to basics. Possibly going to do my own fuse box/relay setup if budget allows.

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/23/18 9:49 a.m.

I went through similar repairs on my E28 too. I hit all of the bare repaired metal with OSPHO (or something similar) before  etching primer, wurth seam sealer and then rustoleum primer and paint. Hopefully it holds up for me.

Your flux core welds look pretty great, if you ever get gas we'll expect to see some weld porn.

Adam

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/23/18 10:04 a.m.

In reply to captainawesome :

Yeah - just like Adam these were issues on my E28 as well. I didn't with the E21 but the Healey is getting POR-15 all over. Those other floor repairs were definitely done with a stick welder and with galvanized. Same thing with the rockers they put in...

Right on about the weight loss, I'm planning to go dash-less and heater-less too. I've only had issues with fogging once when it was pouring rain and 50 degrees. I'm going to bet it's not going to happen very often. I've got a little hot rod heater sitting around if you want it. Pretty sure it's never been used although it's not fresh off the shelf.

captainawesome
captainawesome New Reader
10/23/18 10:06 a.m.
adam525i said:

I went through similar repairs on my E28 too. I hit all of the bare repaired metal with OSPHO (or something similar) before  etching primer, wurth seam sealer and then rustoleum primer and paint. Hopefully it holds up for me.

Your flux core welds look pretty great, if you ever get gas we'll expect to see some weld porn.

Adam

Yeah I really need to make sure I prep before primer, still figuring out what I want to use for that. A remover or converter? I picked up some smoke gray Rustoleum and SEM seam sealer that should do the trick for topcoat. I'll use it for the whole interior and underhood. Thinking I'll use the Marine white paint for the exterior.

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