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Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 1:33 p.m.

What the berk!

hobiercr (FS)
hobiercr (FS) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/9/20 1:41 p.m.

Is that the oil pan?

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/9/20 1:49 p.m.

"FIll 'er with grease, Ted.  That'll stop those noises long enough to sell 'er"

Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter)
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/9/20 1:51 p.m.

Holy berkeleying berkeleynuggets!

I really hope thats not the oil pan, or is just staged for us.

Either way,  gear oil in the crankcase should allow it to live long enough to post dynamic times....

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/9/20 1:55 p.m.

Stampie might have to (gasp!) double his challenge spending to buy an engine!

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/9/20 2:06 p.m.

That is incredible!

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 2:06 p.m.

Here's today's story. 

At Harbor Freight I picked up these gasket scrapers to use as wedges for parting the lower oil pan.

I like them.

I decided the first order of business is drop the lower pan. First I jacked up the front of the car to fit the oil drain pan under it and pulled the drain plug.  Nothing came out. That's strange.  Check the dip stick and it shows over full.  Ok maybe I have it jacked up enough all the oil went to the back of the engine.

Let's drop that oil pan. The wedges worked pretty well. Few hours (edit not hours it was a few wacks) with a hammer and the pan started separating. Then oil started coming out.  Ok how did that happen?  Put the the drain pan back under it and with a plop the pan fell down to as you see above.

I was curious so I put it in a zip lock and weighted it. That's 4.5 lbs of sludge.  No shinnies in the oil itself but under all the sludge I found copper bits.

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/9/20 2:08 p.m.

I am curious how an engine creates 4.5 lbs of sludge.

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 2:13 p.m.

In reply to pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) :

Yeah the bottom of that was solid like jello. It actually used the pan as a mold. Lil Stampie wants  to build a TV mount for his gaming rig. It's nice to be the helper and complain that I'm hot and want to go inside. 

slowbird
slowbird SuperDork
10/9/20 2:13 p.m.
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter)
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/9/20 2:14 p.m.

This pretty much validates all my stereotypes about nissan owners. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
10/9/20 2:21 p.m.

That's amazing. I'm just.......impressed. 

hobiercr (FS)
hobiercr (FS) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/9/20 2:22 p.m.

I see A LOT of sea foam in your future.

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/9/20 2:27 p.m.

the fact that it was running at all is unbelievable.

maschinenbau (I live here)
maschinenbau (I live here) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/9/20 2:51 p.m.

Weren't you doing this to diagnose the noise that sounded like rod knock, but you hoped was timing chain? I think this answers that question. Sorry man. You can race Datsaniti if you want.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 3:21 p.m.

yeah, whoa

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 3:34 p.m.
maschinenbau (I live here) said:

Weren't you doing this to diagnose the noise that sounded like rod knock, but you hoped was timing chain? I think this answers that question. Sorry man. You can race Datsaniti if you want.

Correct but maybe I'm just being stubborn here. I took a sample in a coffee filter while the oil was draining over the side of the pan. Here's what I got.

The black I think is just pieces of the sludge. I don't see any shines.   So big question time. Do I continue chasing my tail on this one or do I go to a backup plan?  I'm willing to accept advice. 

 

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/9/20 3:44 p.m.

If you get thing running you should win by default.  Make sure you keep the sludge for your presentation to the judges.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/9/20 4:02 p.m.

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

I think we all know that engine is boned.  For curiosity I, and probably everyone else, would like to see how messed up it is but I doubt it will be a quick return to health.

What does the backup plan look like?  I'm thinking that's going to be the way

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 4:07 p.m.

In reply to Mr_Asa :

The backup plan is just a Craigslist away.

Run it. You're a shoe in for-wait for it...

Most. Spectacular. Failure.

Let's be honest, it's everyone's dream.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
10/9/20 4:20 p.m.

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

It might be a pain in the ass with the time crunch, but I think you could find another engine from a yard and slap it in.

I'd probably think of that as Backup A, then Backup B could be craigslist.  That's me, though.

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 4:21 p.m.

Brake cleaner the pan and pickup, put it back on with oil in it, see what it sounds like.  

pimpm3 (Forum Supporter)
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/9/20 4:25 p.m.

In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :

Exactly!  He has nothing to lose but his time.

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/9/20 4:44 p.m.
pimpm3 (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :

Exactly!  He has nothing to lose but his time.

Which, as he has demonstrated on multiple occasions, is worth very little to him

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