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dxman92
dxman92 HalfDork
7/12/20 8:30 a.m.

Of those two, I'd go with the Atturo. The Westlake is more $$$ for Chinese made tires. I think the Atturos are at least not hencho in China.

Recon1342
Recon1342 Dork
7/12/20 9:35 a.m.

Irish, the E range tires are a ten ply used for heavy towing. Most of your additional weight comes from the additional plies in the sidewall. There are too many folks out west to count who run E rated tires on their ranch and dairy trucks year-round in some of the worst conditions a tire sees. They hold up, and the traction in snow and ice is fine. Like anything else in snow and ice, you want to minimize wheel spin...

I myself am partial to the Cooper Discoverer A/T series of tires. They are a nice A/T tire with excellent highway manners and good traction in the muck. 

CAinCA
CAinCA GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/12/20 11:20 a.m.

In regard to what pressure to run on load range E tires: If you know the curb weight of the truck and the tire's max load rating and max PSI you can calculate the required (starting) pressure for your new tires:

(Tire max load * 4) / max pressure = load per PSI

curb weight / load per PSI = required PSI


This is a starting pressure. You'd need to chalk the tires to see if they will wear evenly at this pressure.

 

I have the Toyo Open Country in load range E  on myF150. When I bought it the PO has the pressure at 50psi. The truck ride like E36 M3 and easily broke the rear tires loose. Using the math above I lowered the pressure to 35psi. The truck rides and handles better and the tires wear evenly. 

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/12/20 8:13 p.m.

I'll also chime in as a fan of the Cooper AT3s.  I use them on my 4Runner, the tread is quiet enough on the highway, aggressive enough for mud but no so aggressive that it buries itself in the sand when I'm on the beach.

The tires are available with snowflakes on them, but the 4Runner has never seen snow. If it snows, I take the Subaru out for... reasons.

FooBag (Forum Supporter)
FooBag (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/13/20 12:02 p.m.

I will forever be a huge fan of the Bridgestone Dueller AT2 RHS.  I have gone through three sets on my Silverados, putting between 79 and 88 thousand miles on each set.  They were still at 4/32 when I swapped out the 88K set.

You'd think they would be rolling rocks to get that many miles, but they are actually 400TW (most AT are 600).  They grip well, and I've felt comfortable taking cloverleafs at 45 mph in my 1/2 ton.  I also have zero complaints about their grip in mud and snow.  I've used my truck repeatedly to tow the club rallycross trailer through muddy fields or 8"+ snow for our winter events.

Mu only complaint is they get squeally during parking lot cornering once they get down to 6/32's or so.

https://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/dueler-at-rh-s

collinskl1
collinskl1 GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/13/20 1:01 p.m.

To your earlier question about load rating - most load range E tires will be LT. I'd be surprised if the Sequoia GAWR loads require an LR-E tire. LR-D is likely more appropriate for your use case.

Either way, just make sure the inflation pressure is adequate for the load you're carrying.

EvanB (Forum Supporter)
EvanB (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/13/20 1:07 p.m.

I ended up ordering the Atturo AT tires. They are made by federal so hopefully not terrible. I'll report back if they are ok or if being cheap bites me. 

irish44j (Forum Supporter)
irish44j (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
7/14/20 9:20 p.m.
collinskl1 said:

To your earlier question about load rating - most load range E tires will be LT. I'd be surprised if the Sequoia GAWR loads require an LR-E tire. LR-D is likely more appropriate for your use case.

Either way, just make sure the inflation pressure is adequate for the load you're carrying.

No, definitely doesn't require it. I've been running Revo2 (which are P rather than LT) and they've been fine other than having amazingly fast wear. 

Almost nothing out there at LR-D it doesn't seem. It's either C or E. 

collinskl1
collinskl1 GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/15/20 6:27 a.m.
irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:
collinskl1 said:

To your earlier question about load rating - most load range E tires will be LT. I'd be surprised if the Sequoia GAWR loads require an LR-E tire. LR-D is likely more appropriate for your use case.

Either way, just make sure the inflation pressure is adequate for the load you're carrying.

No, definitely doesn't require it. I've been running Revo2 (which are P rather than LT) and they've been fine other than having amazingly fast wear. 

Almost nothing out there at LR-D it doesn't seem. It's either C or E. 

For whatever reason, D's are becoming less and less common. A hand full of OEs are asking for them still, but most tire companies would prefer C or E for marketing reasons or some such.

For a predominantly towing vehicle, I suggest the LT tire. Carcass stability and durability when loaded heavily will be better than the P versions. Tread compounds will likely be the same between the two, but the carcass and belt package will be stiffer on the LT which would again tend to have more stability -> less movement or squirm -> better wear.

When not towing, the LT tires will likely ride a little harsher, but the benefits outweigh the downsides in my opinion.

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