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ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
3/22/18 2:29 p.m.

LINK

So Caddy is doing a "V-Sport" version of the CT6 with their very own, Caddy-only twin turbo V8. And it's reverse flow, with turbos in the valley. In V-Sport trim it makes 550HP and 627lbft of torque.

Discuss.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
3/22/18 2:32 p.m.

Cool, but will it really help sell Cadillacs over the gen IV engine? I am not so sure.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
3/22/18 2:35 p.m.

I thought Caddie said a few years ago they weren't going to make any more V8's, all turbo 4's and 6's into the future?

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
3/22/18 2:40 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:

I thought Caddie said a few years ago they weren't going to make any more V8's, all turbo 4's and 6's into the future?

Maybe it's just 2 turbo 4s bolted together?  Or they're a week early on the April fool's jokes...

NickD
NickD UltraDork
3/22/18 2:40 p.m.

A new engine isn't going to solve the horrendous electronic gremlins that plague 90% of Cadillacs. And the last Cadillac V8 was a real stinker. I'm sure I'll be wrenching on these things in short time.

barefootskater
barefootskater Reader
3/22/18 2:41 p.m.

I like it, because to me a Caddie is not a Caddie without 8 holes under the hood. And who doesn't love a nice pair of snails to help speed you along?

NickD
NickD UltraDork
3/22/18 2:49 p.m.

I wish Cadillac would just get it over with and split off by themselves. They were trying to (maybe they succeeded?) move their headquarters away from ll the other GM headquarters to New York City. Now GM dealers have to have a separate Cadillac service advisor who has to sit off by themselves at a special elevated desk and handle all the Cadillac customers (and look down on the other plebeian Chevy/Buick/GMC service writers). There has to be specially marked Cadillac lifts in the shop for just Cadillacs.  And there is separate inspections by Cadillac representatives that are wholly different than those by regular GM reps. I'm sure if Cadillac split off, we'd dump them, because they sell horribly. We've moved 3 Caddies total this year so far. Three.

STM317
STM317 SuperDork
3/22/18 3:16 p.m.

This engine would look good in that mid engined corvette that's totally not a Cadillac even though GM spent a ton to rebrand their mid engine race cars from Vettes to Cadillacs.

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
3/22/18 3:23 p.m.

Seems like a waste of resources to develop this engine when the existing engines are not slouches. Old (bad) GM habits coming back?

STM317
STM317 SuperDork
3/22/18 3:28 p.m.

In reply to dculberson :

That's a good point. Lincoln has done the same thing in recent years. They always claim that luxury buyers want "Unique" engines but it seems like Audis mostly get the same engines as VWs and they outsell Lincoln and Cadillac.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
3/22/18 4:36 p.m.

BMW started doing this how many years ago?

fidelity101
fidelity101 UltraDork
3/22/18 5:08 p.m.

I look at that and see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for repair costs and no longer able to work on stuff in my driveway without a legitimate engineering degree and multi thousand dollar specialty tools.

Snrub
Snrub Reader
3/22/18 6:07 p.m.

^ Doesn't pretty much everyone on this forum currently work on their own cars?  :)

It's a bit strange to me that the press on Cadillac sales is so positive, but the sales are so poor. I suspect the problem is that customers want nicer interiors and better infotainment systems, while Cadillac has invested in designing the best handling vehicles and wild special editions. I think hot V engines are cool and like the Merc twin turbo 4L this one will have different variants with different outputs, I'm just not sure there will be any pay off. I don't suspect this engine will appeal more than the LT4.

418NV
418NV New Reader
3/22/18 6:17 p.m.

Didn't BMW do this like 10 years ago already?

 

 

Cotton
Cotton PowerDork
3/22/18 6:38 p.m.

I like it.

smokindav
smokindav Reader
3/22/18 6:39 p.m.

The main issue I have with Cadillac is that you can’t get the big Caddy sedan with a V8 and rear wheel drive. You can get the CT6 with rear wheel drive and a 2.0L turbo four or all-wheel drive but that is not what players want to drive.

Now that they finally offer a V-series version of the big sedan it’s all-wheel drive. Again, fail. Maybe that’s what most people want? Look at the new BMW M5 - all wheel drive only. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
3/22/18 7:58 p.m.

I'm very interested to see where else this shows up. It's a bit weird in a big sedan, but like mentioned above, provides some interesting possibilities in a mid engined car that needs a motor for homologation. 

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
3/22/18 8:26 p.m.

I can't see that motor going in a vehicle with the motor in front of the driver.  The exhaust would exit over the transmission next to the firewall.  Mid-engine, I'd guess. 

 

BTW, my 2nd car was a Caddy.  2.5 Tons, 12-14MPG on the highway at 55 MPH, 6-8 around town.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
3/22/18 8:29 p.m.

I'm not too shocked by this.  Both BMW and Audi have similar twin turbo V8s in their large, high-end stuff.  Porsche too, for that matter. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/22/18 8:30 p.m.

Hot veeeee!   I have a strange like for these type engines!

yupididit
yupididit SuperDork
3/22/18 8:41 p.m.

Oh a new norstar

418NV
418NV New Reader
3/22/18 9:11 p.m.
yupididit said:

Oh a new norstar

 

lol

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/22/18 9:31 p.m.

Zoomie hater pipes out the hood!

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
3/22/18 9:42 p.m.

I can't see that motor going in a vehicle with the motor in front of the driver.

Why not? Audi and BMW's (and maybe Porsches?) longitudinal front mounted V8s with turbos in the valley all do. Plus, its the same exhaust orientation of pretty much every diesel v8 pickup from the 7.3 Powerstroke to now. Yes, they do have funny looking and poorly performing downpipes, but they work and even go very fast.

I'm a little surprised only in that i hadn't heard of this coming until now. But, it's basically an established standard in the high end luxury market now so i'm not too surprised that if they were going to design any new v8 at all, it would be this basic design.  

coexist
coexist Reader
3/22/18 10:40 p.m.

Needs a bag of snakes

 

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