sachilles wrote: Just to give you a laugh, I hosted that picture on my photobucket account. Somehow the settings changed and it sent the photo to my facebook account. Now my friends think I got a new race car for Christmas.
That is funny.
sachilles wrote: Just to give you a laugh, I hosted that picture on my photobucket account. Somehow the settings changed and it sent the photo to my facebook account. Now my friends think I got a new race car for Christmas.
That is funny.
pilotbraden wrote: In reply to logdog: I thought that it looked a bit different.
Curmudgeon posted that pic to show the Spec Miata seat.
Pics of whats left
A few more
In reply to logdog:
Thanks for posting those photos. The photos that logdog posted are what I have to work with. Braden
A little more information. The car is a 1984 RX-7 that was used in IT7. I have agreed to buy it from logdog. I am picking it up on monday. My plan is to race IT7 at Waterford Hills this summer.
Why was it cut up? That's unfortunate.
I stand by my advice - rebuild fresh from the main hoop forward.
I think you'll find it's easier to build new from the main hoop forward. Use the old stuff as a template cut and bend new tube.
DILYSI Dave,
It was going to be used in a diferent series by the previous owner where a full cage is not required.
DILYSI Dave and Sachilles,
New from the hoop forward is what will most likely happen. As I understand it some changes were necessary on the old one to make it legal under current regulations.
pilotbraden wrote: A little more information.http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/media/img/icons/smilies/laugh-18.png The car is a 1984 RX-7 that was used in IT7. I have agreed to buy it from logdog. I am picking it up on monday. My plan is to race IT7 at Waterford Hills this summer.
All right !! Another racer added to the ranks of Waterford Hills.
logdog wrote:pilotbraden wrote: <img src="FYI- Thats not the same car. I can take pictures of the cuts later. I did remove everything from the main bar forward." /> This is a before picture
Can y'all explain to me just why you are planning to cut my roll cage? >:-(
Yes, that is the Jensenator. 
On your cage question: if the cage was built long enough ago, it may have been done with ERW tubing which is no longer allowed in new construction of an SCCA cage, big mods like this will pretty much count as new construction. If it does not have a SCCA logbook and you plan to run SCCA events, the cage will need to be inspected before a logbook is issued. Either way, that means you may find yourself in the position of having to build a complete new cage.
Curmudgeon wrote:logdog wrote:Can y'all explain to me just why you are planning to cut my roll cage? >:-( Yes, that is the Jensenator.pilotbraden wrote: <img src="FYI- Thats not the same car. I can take pictures of the cuts later. I did remove everything from the main bar forward.
Rats, I am foiled again
By the way, the GCR has a section devoted to this question, basically how to build a new cage on top of existing spreader plates etc so it will pass tech. There's a whole section on rosette welds, etc.
What I usually see the local roundy-rounders doing is cutting the A pillars at the bottom of the windsheild, cut the B pillars at the top of the rear quarters, cut the C pillars at the top of the rear quarters, drop the cage in complete from another car, and weld the roof skin back on at the pillars. No one cars about a welded on roof skin. Everyone cares about a cobbled cage. Of course, the local roundy rounders have no glass to contend with either.
Bolt in cages will have a sleeve of the next pipe size up that is at least 6 inches longer on both sides of the cut. Then two grade 8 or better bolts per side are used. Holes are drilled at right angles to each other all the way thru the four layers of pipe. If you dig thru the rule book on SCCA.com, you'll find a better explanation. What you end up with is a cage that won't fail, but a cage that offers no structural rigidity.
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