Been doing track days for ~2 years and the warranty issue with 1LEs frequently come up (what else do car guys do when between sessions but chat about cars, amirite?). I've heard of no one having issues with it. Most people actually go to the dealer for the prep so there is no misunderstanding of what they did or did not do for the warranty to be in effect. Yes, it might be a little more expensive at the dealer, but either do all the items and keep a spotless record or pay more so it's just not an issue.
BTW it seems like you got a new one? Do you mind sharing how much it was?
jj said:
Snrub said:
jj said:
More info: https://my.chevrolet.com/content/dam/gmownercenter/gmna/dynamic/manuals/2019/Chevrolet/camaro/2019-chevrolet-camaro-track-prep-guide.pdf
However I can't find anything in writing about the "track" warranty. I know several magazines stated this, but the owners manual says competition will VOID the warranty.
Did anyone else mentioned that on page 2. ;)
When GM was busy trying to not fix my vehicle, I think 5 different people explained to me the different ways they attempted to find a way to void my warranty. Did you tune the car? You tuned the car, right? We're going to find out, did you tune the car (after they couldn't, because I didn't)? Here's your 9th set of 100k mile spark plugs, have a nice day. If you want to track your vehicle, I would operate under the assumption there is no warranty and be pleasantly surprised if they honor it.
Yes this concerns me now :)
It wouldn't concern me. One person having a bad experience doesn't mean everything isn't always that way.....just like one person having a good experience isn't always that way.
Snrub
HalfDork
8/27/19 11:24 a.m.
I still think people should be aware that the track warranty is not in writing, as mentioned the opposite is stated in writing. If people are buying a car due to a track warranty, they should be aware of the risks. This time last year I was on here evangelizing the track warranty. It's the same things as buying an aftermarket warranty vs. a manufacturer's warranty. People are willing to pay more for the perceived value of manufacturer's commitment. I imagine most dealers don't care if something minor broke on the track, they'll get paid by GM to fix it. However, when it comes to bigger ticket, or more complicated problems, they have to get approval from GM and are very careful to not endanger that relationship. I'm not suggesting anyone's experience will be like mine, but I highly doubt the systematic avoidance practices and ethics were somehow completely unique to my case. I strongly doubt GM would behave like Mazda who seems to have no problem replacing an AutoXer's 5th broken transmission.
bcp2011 - did any of your friends have a major warranty claim, or complicated case, or was it stuff along the lines of premature ball joint wear?
I'm glad the 4-cyl engine engine is reasonably priced at wrecking yards.
I also don't want to rain on jj's parade. It's a very cool car, congrats on the purchase!
In reply to Snrub :
Nobody I know has personally had big issues. I think your particular instances is atypical (let's not get into the details as I stopped reading your thread at page 10, nor is it relevant here).
When I went to NCM for a Vette track event there was a Chevy dealer there who was sponsoring the event and specifically said that they're there to help and that people go to them for track alignments and other track prep.
jj said:
Snrub said:
jj said:
More info: https://my.chevrolet.com/content/dam/gmownercenter/gmna/dynamic/manuals/2019/Chevrolet/camaro/2019-chevrolet-camaro-track-prep-guide.pdf
However I can't find anything in writing about the "track" warranty. I know several magazines stated this, but the owners manual says competition will VOID the warranty.
Did anyone else mentioned that on page 2. ;)
When GM was busy trying to not fix my vehicle, I think 5 different people explained to me the different ways they attempted to find a way to void my warranty. Did you tune the car? You tuned the car, right? We're going to find out, did you tune the car (after they couldn't, because I didn't)? Here's your 9th set of 100k mile spark plugs, have a nice day. If you want to track your vehicle, I would operate under the assumption there is no warranty and be pleasantly surprised if they honor it.
Yes this concerns me now :)
Especially since they are having injector problems on the turbo fours, to the point that techs are reporting raw fuel pouring from the exhaust.
In reply to bcp2011 :
Are you going to the event on Sept 2 @NCM w/ the chevy dealer? I think I am, I emailed them and they said they're allowing any car so I hope to have the Exocet there.
jj said:
In reply to bcp2011 :
Sure. It was around 29,800. Only option was the tech package (Bose stereo).
I will do track prep myself. There is actually no different oil type listed for track days like the v8 has.
The 2018 owners manual says to overfill oil by 1 liter, but the 2019 manual does not say that anymore.
One onboard video with data I saw had the oil temp consistently at 260-265. That seems pretty high. I can’t remember if this was a 1le or base model.
Synthetic oil is good to 300. Of course the issue how thin the oil gets at that temp.
Most cars go into limp mode with oil temps above 280-290 to "Save the engine" so 260 wouldn't "bother" me, but I'd probably change it more often, or look into a larger oil cooler.
In reply to accordionfolder :
I am not. They do allow any car there (I have a FRS) so you should not have any issues. I don't know the specific requirements on an Exocet though, so it may be worth checking safety requirements for that specific club.
In reply to z31maniac :
Agreed. 260 is high. If you can get a larger oil cooler it could only help.
z31maniac said:
jj said:
In reply to bcp2011 :
Sure. It was around 29,800. Only option was the tech package (Bose stereo).
I will do track prep myself. There is actually no different oil type listed for track days like the v8 has.
The 2018 owners manual says to overfill oil by 1 liter, but the 2019 manual does not say that anymore.
One onboard video with data I saw had the oil temp consistently at 260-265. That seems pretty high. I can’t remember if this was a 1le or base model.
Synthetic oil is good to 300. Of course the issue how thin the oil gets at that temp.
Most cars go into limp mode with oil temps above 280-290 to "Save the engine" so 260 wouldn't "bother" me, but I'd probably change it more often, or look into a larger oil cooler.
Synthetic oil is actually good to a fair bit more than 300. The problem is that the bearing material starts to bubble and flake off around 300 degrees oil temp, and the bearings are the bit we're concerned about.
In reply to jj :
If you figure how much oil is burnt in the engine vs. how many gallons of gasoline are burnt in the same time period, you'd find that the percentage of oil ingested is irrelevant as far as effective octane is concerned.
Sounds more like a generally overaggressive tune issue.
In reply to jj :
There are enough 2.0t Caddy ATSs with broken #4 pistons for me to believe the stock tune isn't overaggressive, at least on that engine.
