Have we talked about the new Scout?

In reply to alfadriver :

My understanding is that Scout is owned /financed by VW but is HQ'd in Michigan and the trucks will be built in SC.

In reply to AMiataCalledSteve :

There are strong legal reasons for pickups to be built in the US.

gixxeropa said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I was thinking the range extender would make it feasible for me to use it as my main tow vehicle. I could make it from Atlanta to Savannah without having to stop to recharge, theoretically

Yeah, that's a much more reasonable expectation of use for the rex instead of off road. The rex is unlikely to be as hilariously oversized as the Ram one but it will slow down battery depletion. Whether you can make that 250 tow in one shot is going to depend on what you're towing and how much range you want when you get there. I know my Cummins diesel with my usual trailer would be getting pretty thirsty by the time I arrived.

alfadriver said:

gixxeropa said:

Scout is owned by volkswagen, so its not quite a scrappy startup. hopefully that means that they'll also materialize

So this is just another German company trying to use the name plates they bought over the years.

Maybe if it was built in the US using US built components, I would be more interested.

But it's more likely to be a car line that VW needs to satisfy their diesel law breaking a decade ago.

To be clear, the Scout vehicles are going to be built at a US plant in South Carolina and qualifying for a full US EV tax credit is part of the business plan for the pricing.

VW also builds the ID4 in the United states and it also qualifies for the full Tax Credit.

The ID Buzz buss revival EV is going to be made exclusively in Germany, which is going to hurt its ability to price competitively in the states to anyone who doesn't want to lease it.

Full Disclosure, I've got a deposit in for a Traveler with the Harvester Range Extender. This ticks all the boxes to be an eventual replacement for my 2013 GX460 someday, so since it's years away, I thought it couldn't hurt to be on the list for more info as it comes out.

I know a formerly active GRM forum member now works for Scout, and i'm very excited about these vehicles. I think they're the right thing, at the right time.

I love how the swing-out spare carrier is integrated into the taillight design.

So people know basically nothing about Scouts . . .

The main point is that they sell for lots of money now as crappy restorations/restomods (with terrible cornbinder engines) on BAT.

When old Broncos were worth very little, Scouts were worth even less.

Fun info:  When VW got slapped with Dieselgate, they laughed and bought like 25% of Navistar, which is the company that makes International (big rig) trucks . . .

I like what I see so far, a lot. Enough to make a deposit... 

In reply to TR7 :

You're a braver man than I.

So, like the Cybertruck, they say it will be $60K and instead will sticker over $100K when they actually come out?

I just dropped a deposit on the Terra pickup... by the time I can actually get one, my V10 Excursion will likely be ready for retirement.

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

I dont go to the casino, so I guess I need to gamble somehow. 

Very excited to see this finally unveiled. After I was "restructured" out of Harley-Davidson this summer I interviewed for several positions with Scout in South Carolina. Ultimately I didn't get a job with the company but everyone I interviewed with was a gear head in some form or another. There's a lot of passion on the teams designing and manufacturing these new vehicles so I hope VW can figure out how to make these and not drift too far from what they unveiled. 

Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to TR7 :

You're a braver man than I.

Backed by VW.  I'm betting we will see two model years at a minimum.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Off-roading itself may not use that much power but the good spots are often quite a ways away from where people live, and when you're 50 miles from the nearest road you do NOT want to be worried about state of charge. 

gixxeropa said:

Scout is owned by volkswagen, so its not quite a scrappy startup. hopefully that means that they'll also materialize

It took VW 25 years to get the new Bus Electric or Gas to market. I hope they get it over the finish line but I don't see how in the timeframe they have given. 

Will there be Scout dealerships ?

In reply to alfadriver :

It's being built here in the the Southeastern US. 

Mndsm said:

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

Exactly! I see a lot car renaissance in our future. 

My dumb ass meant to say kit car. 

International Harvester and Archie McCardell are still talked about in business schools as an example of how NOT to do it.  The 4th largest automaker in America and they blew it all just due to hubris.  Archie boldly took on the UAW with a never give an inch attitude - and lost the whole thing.  

Since my wallet does not count (it will be way out of my price range) I will say, less fancy and more truck like.

Too bad the roof doesn't come off.

brandonsmash said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Off-roading itself may not use that much power but the good spots are often quite a ways away from where people live, and when you're 50 miles from the nearest road you do NOT want to be worried about state of charge. 

All I can do is point to the people I know who lead off-road tours professionally in the fairly empty and remote Utah desert. After running Rivians off-road since the preproduction days, they are very strong proponents of EV off-roading. You really don't travel that far, generally.  Even the famous White Rim trail in Moab is less than 100 miles. 

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I confess, I let range anxiety get the better of me. While I'd like to own an EV (in fact, I put down a deposit on a Lightning on launch day before Ford screwed the pooch with rollout), I use my SUV for rather a few edge cases that would be difficult to accommodate with an EV. Probably I'd be fine, but my wife and I have a favorite camping destination that's 334 miles from our front door via the direct route and that would give me the worries.

Ultimately I went the other way and just bought a brand-new GX550. Maybe by the time the Scouts roll out my use case (or nervousness) will have changed, because there are certainly lots of benefits to an EV.

californiamilleghia said:

Will there be Scout dealerships ?

That's the beauty of what VW did by creating a completely new company. Not tied to VW dealerships. They say straight to consumer.