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AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
6/13/21 5:15 p.m.

This car needs to be Carmaxed.  Let someone else have their Max Attack. 

 

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
6/14/21 8:44 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

Very possible.  OP, get it fixed and get rid of it.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/14/21 9:13 a.m.

Is a running and driving 124 an unicorn these days?

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/14/21 9:37 a.m.

dang man. 

Very sorry to hear. 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/14/21 8:13 p.m.

Temporary replacement has been acquired. This will buy me time to wait on Tony, sell the Fiat, and soul-search again while keeping miles off the Camino. Also is $2000 Challenge eligible...

759NRNG
759NRNG UberDork
6/14/21 9:22 p.m.
maschinenbau said:

Temporary replacement has been acquired. This will buy me time to wait on Tony, sell the Fiat, and soul-search again while keeping miles off the Camino. Also is $2000 Challenge eligible...

Stop !!! make it go away!!! really this is your fall back default sled!?!?! ya know what why don't you go the Pshovel route this time and get you the Focus 2018 RS.....puuulease!!!!   I can smell that crapped out interior from here......ew yuk!!!!!

barefootskater (Shaun)
barefootskater (Shaun) PowerDork
6/14/21 10:26 p.m.

I'm a registered freak, but I gotta say, l LIKE THE SATURN! Those wheels are perfect, the backwards rear doors are choice, and I spy a proper transmission. A guy could do a lot worse. I may find my way to Atlanta in October if you're looking to unload it around then. Just saying. 

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
6/14/21 10:52 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

My eyes!  What has been seen, cannot be unseen.  Gut it and challenge it please!  

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/14/21 11:14 p.m.
maschinenbau said:

Temporary replacement has been acquired. This will buy me time to wait on Tony, sell the Fiat, and soul-search again while keeping miles off the Camino. Also is $2000 Challenge eligible...

I loved these when I was working at Saturn.  They are just so direct feeling compared to brand H or brand T.  Kind of buzzy, but you'll have that with timing chains and not much sound deadening.

 

If/when the intake manifold O-rings start leaking coolant, I'll let you in on how to replace them in 45 minutes instead of 4.5 hours.  It involves a ratchet strap to pull the engine as far forward as possible.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/14/21 11:15 p.m.

"Should I get an ND?"

Ends up with a Challenge priced old Saturn. Hands up if you saw that one coming, folks.

OldGray320i
OldGray320i Dork
6/15/21 12:00 a.m.

I had a little saturn wagon, miss that car.  You could do worse for a get you through driver.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
6/15/21 6:27 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:

"Should I get an ND?"

Ends up with a Challenge priced old Saturn. Hands up if you saw that one coming, folks.

Typical GRM behavior... :-)

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/15/21 6:30 a.m.

It will very probably be for sale at the $2000 Challenge. It's already wearing Rivals and lowered on an Eibach/KYB combo. Those Advanti Storms are Miata lug pattern too...

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
6/15/21 7:11 a.m.

http://www.spinorwinracing.com/events/onelap2003/our_story.htm

http://www.spinorwinracing.com/events/onelap2003/so_you.htm

those were 'seminal' texts for me, back in the day.  Dunno if anything will be useful these days.  Still, a good read.  Good luck!

wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L)
wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
6/15/21 7:37 a.m.

I saw the ad for that Saturn. If in need of a car, I would have totally bought it. 

Good luck with the Fiat.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/15/21 8:50 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:

"Should I get an ND?"

Ends up with a Challenge priced old Saturn. Hands up if you saw that one coming, folks.

On this board seems par for the course. 

I'm actually surprised no one recommended it. 

fusion66
fusion66 Reader
6/16/21 7:41 a.m.

Too soon to start the SC2 upgrades? Only posting as I can't imagine that there are a ton of SC2 Quaife limited slips on the market. 

Quaife Limited Slip Differential LSD for Saturn SC2 S-Series SC2 -... (craigslist.org)

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/16/21 8:06 a.m.

In reply to fusion66 :

I appreciate your optimism in this car's ability to break traction on non-frozen surfaces :)

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
6/16/21 8:16 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

The LSD is a safety feature in that car.  One wheel peel it too hard in the rain and those have an issue with sending the diff crosspin through the trans case. 

rustomatic
rustomatic Reader
6/17/21 3:20 p.m.

Wow, that was a switch.  You have my condolences for the future onset of 'roids from the lowering spring/KYB/manual combo in ATL traffic, with assorted Miata-swallowing potholes . . .

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/17/21 3:40 p.m.

In reply to rustomatic :

It honestly doesn't ride as stiff as the seller made it out to be. Perhaps a little under-damped, but that's a good thing on I-285. Hard left turns activate the "trunk open" light though. An equally hard right turn fixes it.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/23/21 8:57 a.m.

The dealership, after advising with technical support, is saying the freeze plug was likely defective so they ordered a new one and will replace it again. No estimated date given. Today marks 30 days spent at the dealership in the past 2 months. Or 1 full car payment spent not enjoying the car. 

I have a hard time believing a simple freeze plug is defective, compared to a number of other potential issues like leaking combustion into the coolant jacket after it severely overheated or out-of-spec machining on the block casting hole where the freeze plug goes. I get strong BS vibes from this service department. I feel like the hot potato they are juggling until the warranty timer runs out. My gut says GTFO of this car.

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/23/21 9:23 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

I agree with your gut. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
6/23/21 9:26 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

You know, Italian cars do have an annoying tendency to catch fire- it would be a real shame if such a thing were to occur while it's at the dealership for service, leaving their shop insurance to give you the full replacement value.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/23/21 10:13 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Would it be worth you getting a kit to test for exhaust gas in the coolant?  I'm thinking I would do that before I left the dealership.

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