Car #1

Car #2 (49 Ford??)

Let the games begin. (I found these across the street from my parents' house last weekend.

Note, the really old frame is right hand drive.

front leaf springs that are parallel to the frame rails? I think that's REALLY old. I saw a 1908 buick with that type of suspension one time......

Car one Also has the only set of full eliptical springs I've ever seen. I am kinda thinking it's a truck by the size of the front axle, number of rear leaves and the driveshaft mounted brake

Wally wrote: Car one Also has the only set of full eliptical springs I've ever seen. I am kinda thinking it's a truck by the size of the front axle, number of rear leaves and the driveshaft mounted brake

I was thinking early truck as well. But then, looking at the front axle, I'm not sure how early, since its a tube axle and not a beam.

1 looks a lot like a Model T frame I saw in a model at the Blackhawk Museum.

Looks like a start of a project for someone with a welder and way to much time on their hands.

carguy123 wrote: #1 looks a lot like a Model T frame I saw in a model at the Blackhawk Museum.

You need to look at more model T's then.

Car #2: If it is a Ford, it's definately post-war, Ford had dropped the wishbone front suspension by 1941 IIRC.

It's not a 41-48 Chevrolet for sure, I'm very familiar with the suspension in those.

It does have the Chevy-style "top-hat" frame rails. Maybe a 49-54 Chev?

First one gets my vote for a truck of some sort. Everything is overbuilt which didn't happen to a lot of cars that early on.

1 I'd like to say Dodge as I believe they used tubular straight front axles, but double elliptical leafs? I dunno.

The axles on the really old one are interesting. I like the web on the rear axle, and Model T's don't have the webbed axle, otherwise they look similar. But, if it was a T, the front axle isn't right since they didn't use that type of tube axle.

Keep it coming guys. I have to know what these things are/were.

The rear end looks like an Alfa....but not much else does.

Chassis #1
This one intrigues me a lot. It's definately heavy duty with those springs on it. The thing on the driveshaft looks to me like it doesn't have enough bracing to be a driveshaft mounted brake or a PTO. However, I think it could be a secondary clutch to disengage the drive shaft in order to use the engine to power something else entirely. So, given the age, right hand drive and interesting drive train, I am going to vote for early farm utility truck or possibly water pumper. But mostly I am talking out of my ass and I really like fire trucks I could not find a pic of a right hand drive fire truck though, maybe a hook and ladder truck would be right side drive.

EastCoastMojo wrote: But mostly I am talking out of my ass and I really like fire trucks I could not find a pic of a right hand drive fire truck though, maybe a hook and ladder truck would be right side drive.

Be that a Stutz?

2 definitely not a 49-54 chevy. they didnt have spring perches in the frame, they were part of the front suspension crossmember.

makes for simple updating. unbolt and roll out the original, roll in and bolt in the new.

Woody wrote: Be that a Stutz?

Indeed it is. Here is a 1913 Flying Squad Wagon that appears to have the elliptical leaf spring setup - in the front at least.

EastCoastMojo wrote:

Woody wrote: Be that a Stutz?

Indeed it is. Here is a 1913 Flying Squad Wagon that appears to have the elliptical leaf spring setup - in the front at least.

No tube front axle though.

I posted on the Hamb too, let's see what those guys have to say.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458690

My vote is for a Maxwell Runabout. 1910 or so. Definitely something with a body that looks more like horses should be pulling it. That frame is upside down. Those curved pieces sticking out from the frame carry the fenders and running boards.

Brotus7 wrote: Let the games begin. (I found these across the street from my parents' house last weekend.

So...did you buy them?

Woody wrote:

Brotus7 wrote: Let the games begin. (I found these across the street from my parents' house last weekend.

So...did you buy them?

I don't know how to go about it right, since it's water company land, but I'm sure I could remove them and nobody would know any different....

Brotus7 wrote:

Woody wrote:

Brotus7 wrote: Let the games begin. (I found these across the street from my parents' house last weekend.

So...did you buy them?

I don't know how to go about it right, since it's water company land, but I'm sure I could remove them and nobody would know any different....

Just tell us when we need to be there...