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alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/9/20 6:07 a.m.
Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) said:

It's less about fuel savings than it is emmission.  Having the engine off for a minute or 2 during the EPA testing loop is huge for the manufacturer these days. They keep picking on the ICE engine even though modern cars burn do clean it's a non issue. Wish they focus on something else.....

No, it really is all about fuel economy.  When it's operating, the same idle emissions are almost zero- so between zero and zero...

Actually, the dynamics of the restart makes stop-start just barely worse than if off.  Not enough to shift vehicle emissions much, but when you stare at the data, you can see there's an effect.

flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/9/20 9:25 a.m.

In reply to Vigo (Forum Supporter) :

No idea why the original was replaced, but it came to me with a non-original flooded lead acid battery. I had to put an AGM battery in it to make it function again.

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/9/20 11:33 a.m.

I've been driving reliable cars for several decades now but I still get a sinking feeling that takes me back to earlier times whenever a car I'm driving quits running.  I'm sure I'd get over that if I drove an auto stop/start car with any regularity but at the moment I find it unsettling.  I have noticed that some manufacturers do a better job at it than others.  The BMW I drove was pretty seamless.  The Volvo, not so much.  I seem to recall that the Jeep Cherokee I rented once also did a pretty crummy job but the rest of the car was so annoying that the stop/start hardly registered.  I really don't need to have the brakes automatically apply whenever I back past my mother-in-laws potting shed.  It's been backing past it for 40 years and I really don't think it's going to jump out behind me now.

I guess my point is that I think as it becomes more common and the systems get better we'll find it less of an intrusion and move on to other things to complain about.

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