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MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 9:50 a.m.

I am looking for something to replace the fiesta and I would like it to have 4x4 with low range and sub $30k and new. What options do I have?

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 9:52 a.m.

Also the mpg is because it will be my daily and I drive 100 miles a day.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand UberDork
5/5/17 9:55 a.m.

Compact/midsize pickup with the smallest engine? Do they still put 4-bangers in new Tacomas? Seems like that would get you there.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:00 a.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote: Compact/midsize pickup with the smallest engine? Do they still put 4-bangers in new Tacomas? Seems like that would get you there.

Good luck finding one. That's the issues with the Tacoma's at least here it's take what we have on the lot or go somewhere else. And they are all loaded 4 doors.

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
5/5/17 10:02 a.m.

Jeep, at least in some models.

Are you planning on doing some serious offroading ? If not, you don't need low range.

thedanimal
thedanimal Reader
5/5/17 10:09 a.m.

Jeep Renegade? That seems to tick the boxes.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:14 a.m.

I would like the jeeps, but I really don't trust FCA quality. I can likely deal with it on the wrangler but it is still hard for me to want to spend money on a FCA vehicle.

I know a F150 reg cab, short bed with the 2.7 and 4x4 gets the gas mileage I am looking for. I am just not sure if I need a truck.

I like the idea of the wrangler just I would prefer it not be made by Jeep. A Suzuki Jimny Sierra checks all my boxes it just isn't sold here.

I would like to do some moderate off-roading.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/5/17 10:14 a.m.

I was also thinking some kind of Jeep Wrangler with a small engine. The Renegade Trailhawk might be a decent choice. The only new street-legal mass-production vehicles available with 4x4 and low range are:

  • Jeep Wrangler and variants
  • Jeep Renegade
  • Toyota Tacoma/4Runner
  • Enormous pickups from GM & Ford (virtually all would need heavy mods for anything more than light offroad use, the Ford Raptor being an exception)
  • Toyota Hilux
  • Toyota FJ-series utility pickups
  • Most of Mahindra's pickups and SUVs
  • Maruti Gypsy, AKA a slightly updated & rebranded Samurai from India.
  • (Added) Suzuki Jimny Sierra, AKA a slightly updated Jimny from Australia.

You'll notice that only the first 4 are sold in the US.

thedanimal
thedanimal Reader
5/5/17 10:16 a.m.

4Runners are getting to the $30K range for 2014-2015's with around 20K-30K miles.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:16 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

I am interested in the new jl wrangler with the Turbo 4cyl they are putting in it but there are no gas mileage numbers or prices yet.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/5/17 10:24 a.m.

Depending on where you live and how much comfort you want, a UTV/side-by-side with a full cabin could be an option. That's what I'd like if I had to replace the Samurai.

There's a Honda Pioneer like this competing in the offroad rally here, it's in a league of its own in offroad speed, obstacle clearance capability is similar to a lightly modded Samurai.

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Reader
5/5/17 10:31 a.m.

Admittedly none of them have been single cabs but I've spent significant seat time in 2.7L ecoboost trucks and I've never seen higher that 16.5 MPG in real world usage. I do have a fairly heavy right foot and a lot of the driving was done with the cruise control set at 80 MPH so there's room for improvement just from driving style but I'm skeptical that an actual 22 MPG is achievable in any configuration without hypermiling techniques.

Having said (or typed) all of that. I think those are impressive motors and I really like the trucks that they're in. If I didn't need a little more towing capacity than they offer I'd be looking at them to replace my faithful 7.3L Powerstroke.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:34 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

I only have room for 2 vehicles so it will also be my daily.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/5/17 10:36 a.m.
MrChaos wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: I only have room for 2 vehicles so it will also be my daily.

Is that a yes or a no? I'd daily one. Have a friend who does (some cheapo Chinese side-by-side)

rslifkin
rslifkin Dork
5/5/17 10:39 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Your list is missing just about every modern pickup truck... Not every variant gets a 2 speed transfer case, but a lot do.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/5/17 10:50 a.m.

List updated...I didn't think of a gigantic American pickup with relatively low ground clearance, suspension travel, and hilariously bad obstacle clearance capability (especially breakover angles LOL) as being offroad-capable.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:51 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Only Tennessee can register and tag sxs's and they have the same limits as mopeds aka can't be on roads with speed limits over 45mph.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 10:54 a.m.

I can get a reg cab short bed 5.0 f150 4x4 for $27k thats not too bad. But I doubt it would get my gas mileage requirement.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/5/17 10:54 a.m.

Ah I thought they could be made (fully) street-legal in some states.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 11:00 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

I think you can in Utah because of moab but that's as close as you can get.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/5/17 11:02 a.m.

Foresters not from the United States used to have a low range option.

Do they still make them? Could you import a trans for one already stateside?

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
5/5/17 11:08 a.m.

Chevy Colorado? That's 19/21/24 for a 2017 4 cyl gas 4x4.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/5/17 11:13 a.m.

In reply to BrokenYugo:

At the price point of the Colorado I would rather get a 1/2 ton since the only real difference is size.

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
5/5/17 11:14 a.m.

Fords new Ecosport might be worth looking at.

JtspellS
JtspellS SuperDork
5/5/17 11:22 a.m.

As many from the northeast will tell you, you don't need 4 low when you have an outback.

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