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edizzle89
edizzle89 HalfDork
8/11/15 9:55 a.m.

say hello to the black widow s10, this is before it blew up and caught fire

and during the fire

they used pre-runner fiberglass bed sides and fenders to bring down some weight and give it some flare to fit the tires

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 11:24 a.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: What about an LM4? It's a 5300, but with an aluminum block.

$$$$$$$. 4.8's are worth about 30 cents, a piece of used bubble gum and a "just get it the hell out of here!"

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man Dork
8/11/15 11:25 a.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

Fair enough. A 4.8 would be a good starting point. Just remember to add a spare tire and a fuel cell as ballast in the rear.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 11:37 a.m.

The short stroke of the 4.8 (shares the same bore as teh 5.3) revs easier and moves the torque up the power curve. Should be easier on a T-5. ..... should.

4Msfam
4Msfam Reader
8/11/15 11:44 a.m.

Oh yeah, I remember the short build write up by No Limit on the Black widow.... they had to make custom blade sway bars to fit with the LS installed... also relocated the lower ball joints and re welded the attachment points for the drag link to stop bump steer. Short build thread by No Limit trucks

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 11:52 a.m.
edizzle89 wrote: say hello to the black widow s10, this is before it blew up and caught fire and during the fire they used pre-runner fiberglass bed sides and fenders to bring down some weight and give it some flare to fit the tires

i WANT TO KNOW what rear suspension set up they used.

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
8/11/15 12:08 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
edizzle89 wrote: say hello to the black widow s10, this is before it blew up and caught fire and during the fire they used pre-runner fiberglass bed sides and fenders to bring down some weight and give it some flare to fit the tires
i WANT TO KNOW what rear suspension set up they used.

That last photo sure looks like leaf springs to me.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 12:26 p.m.

That's kind of what I thought as well. Interesting.......

chiodos
chiodos HalfDork
8/11/15 12:32 p.m.

My friends threw the caltech catalog at their s10s, they seem happy with handling

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 1:02 p.m.

http://www.carid.com/hotchkis/total-vehicle-system-kit-mpn-80390.html?gclid=CNa196DOoccCFQ-maQodHOkHfw

This could get expensive fast....

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
8/11/15 1:10 p.m.

That's not bad. That's about what i'm going to spend on the Cherokee to go slow over bumps.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/11/15 1:39 p.m.

What is an CAM s dime?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
8/11/15 1:41 p.m.
dean1484 wrote: What is an CAM s dime?

CAM class in SCCA SOLO, Chebby S10/GMC Sonoma.

CAM class is pretty easy to describe: If you look at a car and it makes you involuntarily shout "MURICAAA!!!!!!" it probably belongs in CAM class.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/11/15 1:44 p.m.

4.8s also are suppose to take boost really well.

Think I figured out what this thread is about. @ the original poster. Had you put s10 in the title I would have looked at this thread a couple days ago. Been skipping over it because I figured it was something I knew nothing about.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 1:46 p.m.

hARD To look at it a couple days ago when I only posted it yesterday afternoon. :P

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/11/15 1:52 p.m.

Maybe it was last night. It all gets fuzzy after a while

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand Reader
8/11/15 1:58 p.m.

I've been infatuated with this idea myself for a while. There is an S10 that has been passed around my group of friends since we first turned 16 that one of my friend's parents are currently in possession of. I keep tabs on it, waiting for the 4.3 to fall terminally ill so I can scoop it up for cheap.

I think I would do boom tube exhaust out the side and some Crager D-Windows (weight be damned) for maximum NASCAR effect.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/11/15 3:18 p.m.

I just realized I should do this to the 1954 Willy's I have...

Wonder if it would be CAM legal?

4Msfam
4Msfam Reader
8/11/15 3:26 p.m.

Bobzilla... looks like leaf from the thread I posted a link too.

Nocones, isn't CAM basically American, 108" min...

edit... found it Grassroots thread on CAM rules

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 4:20 p.m.

Yeah, our region pretty much started the whole CAM class thing and have a pretty large turnout at local events (10-15 cars average).

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
8/11/15 5:47 p.m.

Got to stop this. Found the engine mounts, headers, oilpan for ~$600. Control arms for the front, springs, shocks, and a 3-link for another $1200. Just need a 4.3 manual truck with a trashed motor.....

LuxInterior
LuxInterior Reader
8/11/15 5:56 p.m.

"S Dime"? Seriously? Gnarly duude

Nick (Not-Stig) Comstock
Nick (Not-Stig) Comstock PowerDork
8/11/15 6:35 p.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: I'd like a 3link (like an f-body 3rd/4th gen) over a truck arm, but yes great project plan!

What is your reasoning for this? Less weight? That's really the only thing I can think of.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltimaDork
8/11/15 7:05 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: The short stroke of the 4.8 (shares the same bore as teh 5.3) revs easier and moves the torque up the power curve. Should be easier on a T-5. ..... should.

I've been told the 4.8 will also turn something like 8000 rpm reliably with nothing but a set of rod bolts. I'm not sure if the stock heads flow well enough for it to make power that high with just a cam and an intake, but that short stroke does let it rev.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
8/11/15 7:30 p.m.

http://s10racer.com/board/showthread.php?t=541

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