02Pilot
PowerDork
11/27/22 9:19 a.m.
In reply to Caperix :
This one only comes with the OBD2 cable, plus a USB charging cable and outlet adapters for UK/EU. Part of the appeal to me was that updates are free for two years, and that they are done wirelessly. When I pulled mine out of the box, plugged it in, and set up the wifi, it downloaded and installed ~50 updates in a few minutes.
Buying a new scanner every decade or so seems pretty reasonable to me. I'll be completely satisfied if this one lasts me that long.
One of the most important things that is often missing from Volvo stuff is the counters. Drive a Volvo for a year, and it will have a dozen or two codes stored all over the car. My autologic will tell me when it first set, how many times it's set, and when it last set. Anything that's only set once can be pretty much ignored.
The counter is very handy.
The autologic also cost me $7500 ten years ago...
02Pilot
PowerDork
11/27/22 7:54 p.m.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
That's an interesting point. I didn't take note of whether the DTCs stored showed a counter or a date, but I will look for it in the future. A lot of them seemed like really obscure stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if they were set once for whatever reason, but I agree that it would be instructive to know for sure.
But I paid a lot less than $7500, so I won't be too disappointed if this thing doesn't give me that information.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
I wrote HP Tuners in 2023 and asked if their tuner can function as a diagnostic scanner (Seems like it would). They replied that it doesn't. Like any tool, diagnostic scanners that really prepare you for diagnosing and resetting are "bi-directional" and include manufacturer "Enhanced" codes (Manufacturer specific codes - beyond OBD II Codes). Depends on the year of the car you want to test - the newer the vehicle, the more non-OBD II, manufacturer specific codes there are liable to be. If all you get is an OBD II scanner - you could miss a diagnostic code for some non OBD II fault. Some vendors may charge for enhanced codes by vehicle manufacturer so you could specify Ford, GM, etc. Bi-directional means the scanner can toggle items such as the anti lock pump (To bleed the pump), turn on fan motors (to test), perform cam and crank re-learn etc. OBD II readers don't do any of this.
HP does have some bidirectional controls but the thing with HP Scanner is that, besides being clunky for this purpose, is that it only does engine and transmission.
Had a newer F150 in the shop this month with a fried BCM and a TON of corroded wires thanks to a poorly installed windshield. (I did two Ford BCMs and rewires in two days, fun fun) We have the Ford factory scan tool (IDS) and when setting up the new BCM, it wouldn't let us program the new keys without a locksmith certification. And this would require a copy of the vehicle owners driver's license, vehicle registration, photo of the door tag, etc in addition to the locksmith cert that apparently costs four figures a month for insurance.
Ack.
We plugged in an Auro third party scantool and it happily performed the necessary relearns and module handshakes.
What's funny is the other Ford didn't need all that to set up the BCM with the IDS, even though they were the same model year. I guess F150s are a bigger theft issue than Focuses
When I look at my Volvo, I dig up our Autel. It pretty much does anything I could need.