M030
M030 HalfDork
4/8/13 3:49 p.m.

At least it's not wrong wheel drive. It's a 1995 960 sedan. It's basically a big Swedish Buick but I love it. What can be done on the cheap to make it more awesomer?

fidelity101
fidelity101 HalfDork
4/8/13 4:01 p.m.

Roof rack?

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
4/8/13 4:08 p.m.

Cool, it has a Delorean engine

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/8/13 4:24 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: Cool, it has a Delorean engine

No sir. It has a "whiteblock" all aluminium DOHC inline 6.

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/8/13 4:25 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: Cool, it has a Delorean engine

I don't think so. It should be an inline 6, not the PRV V6 boat anchor.

JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/8/13 4:38 p.m.

Anything from the ipd catalog. http://www.ipdusa.com/prodtypemodelbrowser.asp?s=4rbo7u6752359&VM_CHOICE=41

mrwillie
mrwillie HalfDork
4/8/13 4:39 p.m.

1) Google "matthews volvo site" for all your volvo info needs

2) Sell me the throttlebody if you decide to part it out, please??

donalson
donalson PowerDork
4/8/13 5:39 p.m.

always wondered what driving the i6 whiteblock was like... as far as refinement the 960 is def the best of the bunch and that engine has more power across the board (untill you install a few mods to the turbo models)... maybe one day I'll get one :)

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 Reader
4/8/13 5:51 p.m.

Cheap is relative: Salvage B6294T from an S80 T6 or XC90 T6, ditch the twins for a Holset, and an M90 if yours isn't already a manual.

  • Lee
singleslammer
singleslammer Dork
4/8/13 6:08 p.m.
bigdaddylee82 wrote: Cheap is relative: Salvage B6294T from an S80 T6 or XC90 T6, ditch the twins for a Holset, and an M90 if yours isn't already a manual. - Lee

That is an interesting idea. I am looking at one that currently is only on 5 cylinders. Can the swap described be done for challenge money?

M030
M030 HalfDork
4/8/13 6:43 p.m.

In reply to donalson:

Driving it is like driving a big, Swedish Buick. Like a kinda wierd 90s car that still has an 80s dash & lotsa torque. I love this big wierd old car!

M030
M030 HalfDork
4/8/13 6:47 p.m.

In reply to bigdaddylee82:

If it ever gets an engine swap, it's getting a Corvette Z06 LS motor

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 Reader
4/8/13 7:55 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

The B5234Tx or B5244Tx would likely be cheaper/easier to source since they are the most common turbo White Blocks, but they're a cylinder shorter than the B6294T. Still capable of making oodles of power with only 5 cylinders though.

As far as Challenge budgeting, I guess anythings possible. During my regular evening Craig's Listing within a 150 mile radius of Columbus, the occasional T6 engines that show up are usually somewhere between $700-$1000 in various stages of completion, full subframe drop with complete drive train wiring, turbos, ECM, etc. I remember seeing for around $1K but it was a lot of miles if I remember right. In contrast, I've seen exactly the same subframe drop, etc. etc. of a turbo 5 cylinder 150K ish miles for sub $500. You'll spend $400 ish on new timing belt, water pump, & sundries (all White Blocks are interference engines).

Not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to be pretty darn savvy shopper, or get the car, hopefully with a manual already, for around $500 or less to make it feasible, Kuhmos being free helps.

I've bench raced the combo quite a few times. There's a few builds on Turbobricks.com that could give you a better idea of what all is involved.

  • Lee
bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 Reader
4/8/13 7:55 p.m.
M030 wrote: In reply to bigdaddylee82: If it ever gets an engine swap, it's getting a Corvette Z06 LS motor

I fully support this as well.

  • Lee
Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltraDork
4/8/13 8:13 p.m.

That one might be new enough, but the early versions of that had the timing belt updated every year for a while. The early ones were a bit small and girly, so perform your due diligence there.

Vigo
Vigo UltraDork
4/8/13 10:00 p.m.
No sir. It has a "whiteblock" all aluminium DOHC inline 6.

Which is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY better.

M030
M030 HalfDork
4/9/13 6:26 a.m.

I couldn't find any suspension stuff for it on ipd's online catalog. It strikes me that my 960 is just a rounded off 740 with airbags. Does the 740 suspension stuff fit?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltraDork
4/9/13 8:29 a.m.

Close. Some of them have coil spring/Nivomat rear suspension, which is similar tothe 760 stuff. Some have a plastic rear leaf spring with normal shocks, which is unique to them. I'm really not sure when stuff shifted- Maybe when they changed the name from 960 to S90, but I see so few of them, its hard to build a mental database. I know I've got a 98 S90 in the shop now, and nothing from a 700 would fit, either front or rear.

M030
M030 HalfDork
4/9/13 7:55 p.m.

How do I get rid of the pneumatic self-levelling rear suspension?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltraDork
4/9/13 8:28 p.m.
M030 wrote: How do I get rid of the pneumatic self-levelling rear suspension?

So it has coils and big goofy shocks? Not pneumatic, hydraulic self leveling, self contained Nivomat shocks. I'm not sure whether anybody has come up with a solution to that yet. We used to pull the springs and Nivomats out of the stick axle cars all the time, but as of maybe 5 years ago, nobody had come up with a shock that would mount at the bottom and not rattle. You have to change springs, since the shocks support a fairly high percentage of the weight.

IPD doesn't have it, nobody has it. The Nivomats are actually ok for daily use, and they are available in the aftermarket now, so they are less than $600 each.

singleslammer
singleslammer Dork
4/12/13 12:25 p.m.

Found this build if anyone is interested in the Turbo 6 route using an s80 (hybrid in this case) engine.

I think that the GM route looks WAY easier after looking through here.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/12/13 4:11 p.m.
bigdaddylee82 wrote: In reply to singleslammer: The B5234Tx or B5244Tx would likely be cheaper/easier to source since they are the most common turbo White Blocks, but they're a cylinder shorter than the B6294T. Still capable of making oodles of power with only 5 cylinders though. As far as Challenge budgeting, I guess anythings possible. During my regular evening Craig's Listing within a 150 mile radius of Columbus, the occasional T6 engines that show up are usually somewhere between $700-$1000 in various stages of completion, full subframe drop with complete drive train wiring, turbos, ECM, etc. I remember seeing for around $1K but it was a lot of miles if I remember right. In contrast, I've seen exactly the same subframe drop, etc. etc. of a turbo 5 cylinder 150K ish miles for sub $500. You'll spend $400 ish on new timing belt, water pump, & sundries (all White Blocks are interference engines). Not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to be pretty darn savvy shopper, or get the car, hopefully with a manual already, for around $500 or less to make it feasible, Kuhmos being free helps. I've bench raced the combo quite a few times. There's a few builds on Turbobricks.com that could give you a better idea of what all is involved. - Lee

You'll also need a custom oil pan/oil pickup.

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