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californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia HalfDork
3/4/19 3:55 p.m.

I had my friends big highroof Sprinter van up to 150km or a little over 90mph on the Autobahn before it was speed limited...

But the roads here are so pot holed that would be scary now....

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/4/19 4:53 p.m.

I doubt that I'd ever notice.  I have had my wife's S60 on the track a couple of times when I was demonstrating some stuff to students with single seat race cars but I tend to slow down on the straights under those circumstances so that I can talk to people between corners so I doubt that I've had it much over 100.  I can't remember the last time I hit triple digit speeds on a public road and in over a million miles of driving I've never had an occasion where an inability to go over 112 MPH would have been anything other than an interesting data point.

Will
Will UltraDork
3/4/19 6:02 p.m.

The CNN article on this mentioned something else I found much more interesting: 

"The European Union is considering requiring what's known as "Intelligent Speed Assistance" on new cars sold there by 2022. 

That equipment would require cars to have technology that would make them comply with speed limit signs."

Duke
Duke MegaDork
3/4/19 6:59 p.m.

In reply to Will :

Well, we ALL knew that was coming sooner or later. 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/4/19 7:13 p.m.
John Welsh said:

Story of ole...

 The 4th gen Camaro, if order with the big engine were capable of near 150 mph-ish, but, if you did not check the box for the Z rated tires then the big engined Camaro was limited to like 118 mph-ish. 

Sort of.  The convertibles could not be had with speed rated tires for chassis reasons, so LT1 ''verts were limited to 108.  Which, with the T56, was attainable in 6th, 5th, 4th, and almost 3rd.

 

My Volvo is limited to 158mph.  I assume because they wanted that 5km/h more than BMW or Mercedes.  OTOH I have zero interest in finding out firsthand, so it is purely academic.  I try to keep it under 80 on public roads but I do recall slowing down through 110 once.  (Obviously on a closed course) 110 felt just as boring as 80, really.  Too calm and sedate.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/4/19 7:19 p.m.
APEowner said:

I doubt that I'd ever notice.  I have had my wife's S60 on the track a couple of times when I was demonstrating some stuff to students with single seat race cars but I tend to slow down on the straights under those circumstances so that I can talk to people between corners so I doubt that I've had it much over 100.  I can't remember the last time I hit triple digit speeds on a public road and in over a million miles of driving I've never had an occasion where an inability to go over 112 MPH would have been anything other than an interesting data point.

In 2003, a friend bought a new ZX2, and he and another friend went on a 2 week coaster tour of the US.  They left Ohio on Friday and were at some park in California on Monday, and they hit a few parks along the way.  They'd ride every coaster at a given park and then leave to go to the next one, kind of like 1Lap.

 

When they crossed Texas, they used the 105mph limiter as cruise control...

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/4/19 7:23 p.m.
Will said:

The CNN article on this mentioned something else I found much more interesting: 

"The European Union is considering requiring what's known as "Intelligent Speed Assistance" on new cars sold there by 2022. 

That equipment would require cars to have technology that would make them comply with speed limit signs."

I see they want to social-engineer bad drivers too.  Just turn your brain off and let the car do all the work.

 

I'd like to see cruise control banned...

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/4/19 8:05 p.m.

I feel that this is part of their "Vision 2020" plan:

"Our vision is that by 2020 no one should be killed or seriously injured in a new Volvo car."

Håkan Samuelsson, President and CEO, Volvo Cars

 

Vision 2020 | Volvo Cars

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/4/19 8:47 p.m.
Knurled. said:
Will said:

 

That equipment would require cars to have technology that would make them comply with speed limit signs."

I see they want to social-engineer bad drivers too.  Just turn your brain off and let the car do all the work.

 

Nope. They're trying to get RID of drivers. They have to have all the cars obeying the signs and stuff in order to automate the process. The first step of that is going to be doing their best to ensure the human drivers are limited in options so that they automated drone cars don't have as many variables to worry about.

 

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) UltimaDork
3/4/19 9:08 p.m.
Will said:

The CNN article on this mentioned something else I found much more interesting: 

"The European Union is considering requiring what's known as "Intelligent Speed Assistance" on new cars sold there by 2022. 

That equipment would require cars to have technology that would make them comply with speed limit signs."

The tech for this has been in place for YEARS and i’ve been honestly surprised it hasn’t happened before now.

 

As to governors, my explorer was limited to 112 and was kinda sketchy at that speed.  At the other end of the spectrum the Phaeton was so quiet and serene at speed that you could find yourself bumping the limiter at 130 and wondering if something was wrong with the car.  Utterly composed.

Many years ago my folks knew a woman who’s husband bought her a shiny new 1979 Cadillac.  She went from Dayton Ohio to Little Rock Arkansas (650 miles) in just a touch over 6 hours.  When asked if she knew she was speeding she claimed she couldn’t have sped, new Cadillacs don’t go over 85.......because that’s what the speedometer went to.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/4/19 9:38 p.m.

If it brings insurance rates down, I'm all for it, in all cars.Ii live in Virginia, so 79mph is my max since I like keeping my license.

There are three road course tracks within a few hours of me for when I need to actually go fast.

 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 Reader
3/4/19 10:02 p.m.

Just one more reason I will never buy a car made after 1996. Sure my Volvo 240 tops out at 100, and I have only done it a few times, never on track, as I have only tracked it at Lime Rock, where it made 90 in 3rd gear on the straight. The X1/9, on the other had did 110 three times on Christmas morning, and was only limited by the small injectors, soon to be changed. Will I try for more? Damn right I will! Will I do it frequently? No. Probably never see more than 100 once I know it will, there are too many other negatives.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/5/19 6:52 a.m.

I was disappointed to find it at 108ish in the charger when i had miles of clear road in front of me.  I rarely do that, mostly because i like having a license and not paying massive tickets, but it’s nice to know it’s there if i feel like doing some crimes

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/5/19 7:32 a.m.
llysgennad said:

I know my Jeep CJ-7 is aero-limited to about 108 mph.

My CJ-5 is testicularly limited to 85 when I’m driving it.

No Time
No Time Dork
3/5/19 7:38 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:
llysgennad said:

I know my Jeep CJ-7 is aero-limited to about 108 mph.

My Land Rover is aero/power limited to somewhere around 63. My old Subaru was about 75 - when I got on the interstate, I'd just put my foot on the floor and leave it there.

S10 pickups with the Isuzu IDI diesel were the same way. I’d get on the W.Cross heading to NY and hold it to the floor. I’d hit 70-75 on the downhill and be doing 40 by the time I reached the crest on the uphills.

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/5/19 7:44 a.m.

There are vehicles in England that are governed to 5 mph more than WHATEVER you’re driving.  They are white vans.

rslifkin
rslifkin UltraDork
3/5/19 8:29 a.m.
A 401 CJ said:
llysgennad said:

I know my Jeep CJ-7 is aero-limited to about 108 mph.

My CJ-5 is testicularly limited to 85 when I’m driving it.

I know that feeling...  My ZJ was originally limited to 115 and from what I can figure will probably be areo-limited around 140 or so now.  But I've had it to 110 once, decided it didn't feel nearly as sketchy as it should have at that speed and then decided not to do that ever again just in case.  On the other hand, when there are no other cars on the road, 75 in the BMW starts to feel an awful lot like 30.  

fanfoy
fanfoy Dork
3/5/19 8:56 a.m.
rdcyclist said:
Keith Tanner said:
rdcyclist said:

Why would this matter? I've not seen a Volvo driven close to the speed limit in some time. Most of those pipe smoking tweed jacket drivers have enough trouble figgerin' out which pedal does what... cheeky

A friend of mine is a serial modern Volvo owner. He also has an LS3 powered Miata. It's fair to say he knows what the pedals do.

Yes Keith, I know there are many performance oriented Volvo owners. My daily commute takes me over a four lane, two in each direction, mountain road, Highway 17 aka Mark International Raceway. I'm Mark. The joke is: What do you have when a Prius and a Volvo are side by side on 17? Traffic backed up for 3 miles. I swear, the Volvo drivers around here have no idea why there are two lanes in each direction so they just camp out in the left one. It's safer since they put the K-wall in...

That's why Volvo's are the perfect cars for enthusiast driver. I now DD a light brown P2 XC70 and it is absolutly invisible to the police force. I've even had a cop wave me by while I was driving well over the speed limit. 

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
3/5/19 9:38 a.m.

I'm perfectly okay with cars on the interstate, busy local arteries, and roads through my neighborhood being speed limited to 112 mph.  You could even make a case for the limiter being set at the highest posted speed limit in the country in which it is offered for sale.  The last time I drove a vehicle over 100 mph was at the track.  I only see a problem if that Volvo was to be a race car, in which case the above-referenced tune would fix that.  Seems reasonable all around.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/5/19 10:25 a.m.
No Time said:
Keith Tanner said:
llysgennad said:

I know my Jeep CJ-7 is aero-limited to about 108 mph.

My Land Rover is aero/power limited to somewhere around 63. My old Subaru was about 75 - when I got on the interstate, I'd just put my foot on the floor and leave it there.

S10 pickups with the Isuzu IDI diesel were the same way. I’d get on the W.Cross heading to NY and hold it to the floor. I’d hit 70-75 on the downhill and be doing 40 by the time I reached the crest on the uphills.

Climbing the Colorado passes in that Subaru was a little sketchy. I had to watch my mirrors for semis. The Land Rover? I just drove on the shoulder when I was on the big climbs. Sometimes with a little stop to cool down.

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
3/5/19 10:27 a.m.

The idea that insurers would lower rates without legislation or some action from a regulatory body is pretty optimistic. The general public doesn't even know what a speed limiter is and therefore the insurers have no accountability to their customer base to adjust to any change in it, especially anecdotal change from one manufacturer in a sea of cars that are already limited at that speed or slower. Plus, if insurers went on a PR run saying that people are paying what they do because of people going 100+ mph (which isn't true) it'd engender a lot of resentment towards driving enthusiasts  in general, and none of us should want that. 

I'm ok with this particular development because it's a drop in the bucket of travesty that is the autonomous future. This would be a goofy one to nitpick when we let so much else fly. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
3/5/19 12:02 p.m.

After cruising by the board a few times, now I can't help reading the thread title as "Vomiting top speed..."

 

 

You're welcome.

 

Nick Comstock
Nick Comstock MegaDork
3/5/19 1:26 p.m.
1988RedT2 said:

I'm perfectly okay with cars on the interstate, busy local arteries, and roads through my neighborhood being speed limited to 112 mph.  You could even make a case for the limiter being set at the highest posted speed limit in the country in which it is offered for sale.  The last time I drove a vehicle over 100 mph was at the track.  I only see a problem if that Volvo was to be a race car, in which case the above-referenced tune would fix that.  Seems reasonable all around.

Coming back from Austin last weekend rolling along with traffic and not really paying attention I glanced down at the speedo and saw 99 mph.

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/5/19 1:44 p.m.
Duke said:

After cruising by the board a few times, now I can't help reading the thread title as "Vomiting top speed..."

 

 

You're welcome.

 

I see the same thing...

llysgennad
llysgennad Reader
3/5/19 3:52 p.m.
A 401 CJ said:
llysgennad said:

I know my Jeep CJ-7 is aero-limited to about 108 mph.

My CJ-5 is testicularly limited to 85 when I’m driving it.

Ha! I was young and dumb. angel

It was fun, though.

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