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lnlogauge
lnlogauge New Reader
7/22/14 7:49 p.m.

I'm not sure of engine sizing, but any reason not 3sgte? crazy amounts of power for a 2.0, and can be had for 1500 bucks.

edit: never mind. after looking at your engine bay, that would be a nightmare.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/22/14 8:19 p.m.
JFX001 wrote: When that cheap MINI was in the classifieds last week, I did some searching for a swap. I came up with the 2.4 N/A Ecotec version (LE5) from the Cobalt SS. 171hp @ 5600rpm, 163 lb ft @ 5000rpm A later version was a bit up in torque.

Look for the HHR version, only because they probably made 10 HHRs for every 2.4 Cobalt.

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
7/22/14 8:26 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
JFX001 wrote: When that cheap MINI was in the classifieds last week, I did some searching for a swap. I came up with the 2.4 N/A Ecotec version (LE5) from the Cobalt SS. 171hp @ 5600rpm, 163 lb ft @ 5000rpm A later version was a bit up in torque.
Look for the HHR version, only because they probably made 10 HHRs for every 2.4 Cobalt.

Understood.

Opti
Opti Reader
7/22/14 10:19 p.m.
Knurled wrote: Z26 was a Lumina. For the HO version of the Quad 4, you needed a Beretta GTZ (not GTU!) or a Grand Am or a 442. Key was manual transmission, automatic equipped cars had the 160hp lump. The easiest to find was the GTZ, seems Pontiac and Olds dealers tended to not order manual transmission cars. Buzzy crapboxes and the Beretta interior was especially horrible even by early 90s GM standards. But they had an engine that was similar on paper to the E30 M3, output-wise.

Pretty much all the quad 4s made 150-160hp (yah i know there was one that made like 115), the HO made 180-170, then the rare one made 190hp and it was in the 442 and the SCX. Plus apparently most of the stuff swaps between them, so a 2.4, with a good 2.3 head is supposed to be good.

The manual trans is a getrag 282 or nvg-t550, shouldnt be too hard to find, the fiero guys seem to be able to find them.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
7/23/14 12:43 p.m.
In reply to Vigo: Remember, this is a sub-2000lb short wheelbase, mid engined car with severely limited tire sizes. Seriously, without severe body hacking you'd be hard pressed to get very much more than a 205-width tire under the rear. Obviously flares are available, but pricey and tricky to fit. So a stock 140hp SOHC would be much better than the 90 hp 1.5. More than enough to be a ton of fun and would fit better in the tiny engine bay. A DOHC would also fit just fine and at 150+hp it would be a screamer.

The FF k20 and 2zz cars i've driven had no trouble hooking up on ~205s even without the awesome traction advantages of the MR setup. I dont think wheelspin is going to be a big issue. OP just asked for 180hp recipe and i offered one!

wspohn
wspohn HalfDork
7/23/14 12:50 p.m.

Buy a wrecked Cobalt (get the SS if possible). Unbolt the front cradle. Roll under back of X19. Start welding. As the crazy Cobalters are getting 500 bhp+ you might also want to look at frame reinforcement if you don't stick with a stock engine.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke Dork
7/24/14 9:45 a.m.

OP and I think alike. My vote is B18. No replacement for displacement.

Mezzanine
Mezzanine Reader
7/24/14 10:22 a.m.
clutchsmoke wrote: No replacement for displacement.

You know you're starting with a tiny engine when that expression is used in reference to a Honda engine.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/24/14 2:41 p.m.

I vote Fiat 500 abarth power. You can get 240 HP with stock internals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbQ-MDVDuA&list=UUQMELFlXQL38KPm8kM-4Adg

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
7/24/14 2:46 p.m.

I thought the answer around here was always Miata, or more correctly Escort parts plus Mazda B engine?

In all seriousness though, for tiny size and weight with a screaming redline and crazy fun it's hard to beat a Swift GT DOHC G-13.

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