Whats SXS for rallycross?

In reply to engiekev :

For rallycross you probably want to be looking at torque more than power (and also where in the rpm range it is and gearing). Being a small engine that does 10k rpm I'm guessing the yxz doesn't make much torque especially at the low end, though the sequential and being geared for off road use probably make it easier to keep it in the torque band, such as it is.

Lof8 - Andy said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) : 2 more added bonuses about the Yamaha: my wife and I have been wanting a sxs for a long time to play with out in the woods trails. And there's a dirt track in Ocala that hosts sxs short course wheel to wheel races!

 

And that IMO should be the only reason to pick something.  Will it be fun?  Will I be able to expand all the fun things I do?

I'm never saying don't pick a side by side.  If that's what you want, by all means, do it.  I just don't see them as being some sort of all conquering Wicked Tool for overall FTD.  I mean, I've seen sand rails run, and they were usually fighting for DFL.  I've seen people try to buy what they thought was the ultimate tool, or show off their incredible skillz, and encounter so much frustation that their vision was shattered that they stopped having fun.  

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

i keep going back and forth, i have wanted a sxs for a while and there are a lot of places to do that around here.  I cant find anything that i would completely be happy with for either fwd or rwd rallycross, but if i go with a fwd/rwd car it will be cheaper than an sxs.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

Fun is always my top priority!  Lol. I can understand the perceived shortcomings of the sxss but I've witnessed them shredding a rallyx course first hand - FTD. I'll be closer to the top of the pack than the bottom for sure. A proper sxs is nothing at all like a sand rail.  

ProDarwin said:

irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:

I do think that like any newer car, they weigh more than something older. N

I'm not familiar enough with MR rules to know how what kind of weight loss can be expected.  In STX trim a BRZ is 25xx, which doesn't seem terribly heavy, especially by today's standards.  I'm sure gutted lightweight track car efforts are in the 22xx range.

I've seen several clean, but salvage title cars sub 10k.  I saw one for 7k recently.  Honestly at this point they seem just as easy to find a good candidate as it is to find a E30, possibly easier.

Yeah, MR you can pretty much remove all interior, remove bumper, remove lights, and so on. So BRZ can probably lose a couple hundred pounds from STX trim, I'd say. I'm not saying it's heavy by "today's" standards (it's definitely not). I can't think of many top MR cars that are from the last 20 years though (aside from the Boxsters and maybe NC Miatas?)..

lol 7k.....you guys must be ballers. Of our 20-car MR field, I can only think of 2 or 3 that cost more than $2500, if that. Those two woud be the FRS (which was a new car) and Nick's e36 M3, 2-time class champion, which was a salvage title I think he paid about $5k for. I can pick up running e30s and especially e36s in "rallycross condition" for $2-3k  around here. e36s are a dime a dozen and probably similar to BRZ/FRS in rallycross performance, based on the ones that run locally and are up at the top with the e30/Miata crowd. Guess it just depends where you are. 

But yeah, not too long the FRS/BRZ will probably be popular in the RWD classes.

In reply to irish44j (Forum Supporter) :

One of these days I am going to hand you $3k and say "Get me a 325i (or 318is, because a man can dream), keep the change"  E30 or E36s is coo, just no etas.

edit:  Not in quarters

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

There are currently five e30s on my local Facebook marketplace for under $3,000, including one that has actually run with DC RallyCross before, for $1800

Also a couple z3s, a few e36s, and a few e46s. way lighter right now than usual since nobody is selling cars during the lockdown.

Why do you think DC has 20+ BMWs running in our RallyCross classes ? Tons of them available here. All the commuters are in e92s now.

irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

There are currently five e30s on my local Facebook marketplace for under $3,000, including one that has actually run with DC RallyCross before, for $1800

Also a couple z3s, a few e36s, and a few e46s. way lighter right now than usual since nobody is selling cars during the lockdown.

Why do you think DC has 20+ BMWs running in our RallyCross classes ? Tons of them available here. All the commuters are in e92s now.

there are 0 e30's, and 2 running e36's with manuals within 100miles on my fb marketplace under 5k

My YXZ build is happening here and it's a fun rig. 

MrChaos said:

irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

There are currently five e30s on my local Facebook marketplace for under $3,000, including one that has actually run with DC RallyCross before, for $1800

Also a couple z3s, a few e36s, and a few e46s. way lighter right now than usual since nobody is selling cars during the lockdown.

Why do you think DC has 20+ BMWs running in our RallyCross classes ? Tons of them available here. All the commuters are in e92s now.

there are 0 e30's, and 2 running e36's with manuals within 100miles on my fb marketplace under 5k

I entirely attribute it to living in the DC area. There are so many BMWs just being used as commuters and daily drivers around here, and people constantly trading in or selling to get the newer model, so always older ones on the market that were probably driven for 10 years by a soccer mom or yuppie white-collar worker until they wanted a new one. I would say I see as many 3-series BMWs of various years (mostly e46s and e92s at this point) as I see Camrys on my morning commute. Heck, I even seen complete e46s in the junkyards around here. 

Down in NC you guys get all the cool 4x4s though, that nobody here has. I bought both my Raiders down in NC and hadn't seen one in the DC area for sale for months. Not that far for you to come get one up here lol. 

side note: nothing wrong with picking up an automatic e36. Manual transmissions are not hard to find and not hard to swap in ;) e30/e36 stuff is all like legos. 

irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:

MrChaos said:

irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

There are currently five e30s on my local Facebook marketplace for under $3,000, including one that has actually run with DC RallyCross before, for $1800

Also a couple z3s, a few e36s, and a few e46s. way lighter right now than usual since nobody is selling cars during the lockdown.

Why do you think DC has 20+ BMWs running in our RallyCross classes ? Tons of them available here. All the commuters are in e92s now.

there are 0 e30's, and 2 running e36's with manuals within 100miles on my fb marketplace under 5k

I entirely attribute it to living in the DC area. There are so many BMWs just being used as commuters and daily drivers around here, and people constantly trading in or selling to get the newer model, so always older ones on the market that were probably driven for 10 years by a soccer mom or yuppie white-collar worker until they wanted a new one. I would say I see as many 3-series BMWs of various years (mostly e46s and e92s at this point) as I see Camrys on my morning commute. Heck, I even seen complete e46s in the junkyards around here. 

Down in NC you guys get all the cool 4x4s though, that nobody here has. I bought both my Raiders down in NC and hadn't seen one in the DC area for sale for months. Not that far for you to come get one up here lol. 

 

side note: nothing wrong with picking up an automatic e36. Manual transmissions are not hard to find and not hard to swap in ;) e30/e36 stuff is all like legos. 

very few running auto e36's either. plus i want to run an auto anyway.

engiekev said:

Lof8 - Andy said:

I'm preparing to be a guinea pig. Driving to Mississippi to pick this thing up today!  I am excite!  I love the old school livery  I'm hoping the factory suspension has some ride height adjustment to drop it down  1000 miles on it  $8k

That's crazy cheap, even with added expense for a proper roll cage and tires (if needed).  Pretty good power to weight compared to other popular cars.

YXZ
1510lb wet

90 HP

0.06 HP/LB

Boxster

2880lbs

225-258HP

0.08-0.09 HP/LB

W10 MR2 Naturally Aspirated

2282 lb

112hp

0.05

Please do a build thread!

112 Hp in the yxz btw :)