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bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/19/18 12:11 p.m.

$50 core charge for front brake rotors for her truck? When did this nonsense start?

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/19/18 12:18 p.m.

Whuh? What truck and what brand of rotors?

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
12/19/18 12:26 p.m.

Seen it for headlights from gm. It’s all about epa credits now....

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/19/18 12:29 p.m.

Rotor cores used to be the norm before throw-away rotors became more common in the early 90's.  I used to get rotor cores back all the time when I sold parts.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
12/19/18 12:30 p.m.

Is that $50 PER ROTOR so it could be a $200 issue or $50 per pair still being a $100 issue?

That's a tidy little profit on the percentage of people who will fail to return them?  

Who's the retailer?  

wae
wae SuperDork
12/19/18 12:38 p.m.

That sounds kind of crazy, but then I'm still pretty confused about how and why a junkyard has a core charge...

accordionfolder
accordionfolder Dork
12/19/18 12:41 p.m.

I think I'd be ordering from somewhere else. Where was this?

therieldeal
therieldeal New Reader
12/19/18 1:17 p.m.

In reply to wae :

A junkyard core charge is likely so they can still get their money for the parts as scrap metal.  And if you never return the core, I’m sure they make even more from the core charge than they would on the scrap :)

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/19/18 1:26 p.m.

Advance Auto. Still cheaper with their discount codes and perks. with discount and perks it's $46 each with tax local pickup. 

that is $50 PER.

2006 GMC Sierra SLE Crew Cab 2WD rear drums.

cheap pads destroyed the current ones. New Hawk LTS pads. Had them before, should have bought them the last time. Tried to run a cheaper OE-type ceramic and it bit me in the butt. 

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/19/18 1:29 p.m.

Huh. I never knew that rotor cores were a thing. I guess that makes sense before rotors were simply a throw away item like today.

The Raybestos rotors I sold never had a core charge.

wae
wae SuperDork
12/19/18 1:42 p.m.

In reply to therieldeal :

I mean, I get that, but...  when I take the part, I'm paying them more than scrap value, and all they're going to do with my core is put it in the shredder.  It really is just a way to raise prices, which I also get, but if you're going to charge me more, just be honest about it.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/19/18 1:45 p.m.

In reply to Ian F :

I sold parts at AZ back 97-2000. Never saw a core charge on disposable pieces like this. 13 years in the dealerships buying aftermarket parts as well, never saw it. Just seems.... odd. 

chrispy
chrispy HalfDork
12/19/18 1:52 p.m.

I bought front rotors and pads for my Civic from Advance about a month ago, there wasn't a core charge for me.

Edit: I added rotors for both my Civic and minivan to an Advance Auto cart and was not charged a core fee.  Maybe its a local thing?

 

oldopelguy
oldopelguy UberDork
12/19/18 1:52 p.m.

Maybe it's worth more than regular scrap value for the foundry casting brake rotors to get a big chunk of exactly the right kind of  metal that they can pretty much toss it right into the kiln? I have to believe that the actual makeup of "scrap iron" varies enough that it might not make for consistent chemical properties without some sort of sorting or separating process. Since most of that reprocessing happens overseas too, the raw materials cost to the foundry could vary wildly day to day,  and through cores at least their supply lines would have a consistent price.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
12/19/18 2:26 p.m.

Are they two piece rotors, where you can put a new disc onto an old center section? If not, I presume they just recycle them. $50 is a bit absurd, but they probably fetch decent money. The last time I recycled a pair of brake rotors, I seem to recall getting $10 or so for a set from a 3/4 ton Suburban.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/19/18 2:36 p.m.

In reply to chrispy :

If you select a different rotor, there is no core charge. It's just their cheapest option has the core. Its not a big deal for me, I'll yank them before getting the new ones and call it a day. 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/19/18 2:44 p.m.
bobzilla said:

In reply to Ian F :

I sold parts at AZ back 97-2000. Never saw a core charge on disposable pieces like this. 13 years in the dealerships buying aftermarket parts as well, never saw it. Just seems.... odd. 

I remember seeing core charges on fuel pumps.  What are they going to rebuild?

No Time
No Time Dork
12/19/18 2:57 p.m.

It’s even better in MA.  

If you don’t bring the core with you when you buy the part they charge you tax on the core charge. 

When you go back and return the core they don’t refund the tax, the state gets to keep it

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/19/18 3:03 p.m.

In reply to No Time :

in Ohio, you pay the tax even if you have the core with you.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/19/18 3:14 p.m.

In reply to bobzilla :

I just bought a caliper for my daughter’s Fit. The caliper was $53, the core was $60. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/19/18 3:23 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett :

I've had that as well. Paid $150 core for a $110 crank kit. 

Kramer
Kramer Dork
12/19/18 9:23 p.m.
Knurled. said:

In reply to No Time :

in Ohio, you pay the tax even if you have the core with you.

In Ohio, I once sold a set of four reman calipers for a Corvette . $60 each, with $300 core.  The customer had to pay $72 tax on the parts that were exchanged . 

I made $3.35 an hour.  Chevette calipers were expensive to me .

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
12/19/18 9:34 p.m.
bobzilla said:

Advance Auto. Still cheaper with their discount codes and perks. with discount and perks it's $46 each with tax local pickup. 

that is $50 PER.

2006 GMC Sierra SLE Crew Cab 2WD rear drums.

cheap pads destroyed the current ones. New Hawk LTS pads. Had them before, should have bought them the last time. Tried to run a cheaper OE-type ceramic and it bit me in the butt. 

Cheaper than RockAuto? I have an Advance a block from me and I don't think I've ever found anything there that I can't get cheaper online, even with shipping/coupon....

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/20/18 5:26 a.m.
bobzilla said:

In reply to Ian F :

I sold parts at AZ back 97-2000. Never saw a core charge on disposable pieces like this. 13 years in the dealerships buying aftermarket parts as well, never saw it. Just seems.... odd. 

Larger rotors with cast in hubs.  Typically for trucks and older US cars. We used to sell remanufactured rotors. Apparently the process involved welding new material onto the worn rotor and then grinding smooth. I would say '97-00 is too recent for these to have still been common.  Same for drums. This was in the late 80's and early 90's for me.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
12/20/18 9:02 a.m.
irish44j said:
bobzilla said:

Advance Auto. Still cheaper with their discount codes and perks. with discount and perks it's $46 each with tax local pickup. 

that is $50 PER.

2006 GMC Sierra SLE Crew Cab 2WD rear drums.

cheap pads destroyed the current ones. New Hawk LTS pads. Had them before, should have bought them the last time. Tried to run a cheaper OE-type ceramic and it bit me in the butt. 

Cheaper than RockAuto? I have an Advance a block from me and I don't think I've ever found anything there that I can't get cheaper online, even with shipping/coupon....

I've had repeated poor customer service with RA. I will not use them. Ever. 

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