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slefain
slefain Dork
6/7/10 4:36 p.m.

An unnamed magazine recently squeezed a 13.7 second at 102 mph quarter mile out of the new 2011 Mustang 3.7L V6.

Repent, the end is nigh!

The V6 Mustang, once the realm of secretaries and sister-in-laws is now knocking on serious doors here. The evil side of me is thinking that with a set of 4.10 gears, slicks, and a shot of nitrous high 12s are not far off.

Am I the only one that finds this pretty shocking? Sure you could build a much faster car for under $2010, but this is a factory sports car with a warranty. Heck, the insurance should even be reasonable. I wonder if I can fit a baby seat in the back?

Nitroracer
Nitroracer Dork
6/7/10 4:53 p.m.

I bet the power to weight ratio on that is getting close to my 98' f-body. It took about ten years but that is one strong engine, and if the magazines are right it handles well too. An ecoboosted six should downright rival the V8 mustang soon, but please don't make it a replacement for displacement.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/7/10 5:01 p.m.

I informed Leann that since we don't NEED a tow vehicle since I am autocrossing the GLI we need to fond a 30mpg econobox to replace it with, then the commercial with the grey V6 stang sliding through the urban setting came on and I quipped "Like THAT!" she told me to fuggoff

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/7/10 5:17 p.m.

The V6 Stang actually has better slalom and skid pad numbers than the V8. I would love to see one of each show up at an autocross and run the same driver through them.

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
6/7/10 5:58 p.m.

I'm thinking I need to try to scam a test drive of the new 5.0.

I'm already thinking about how depreciation might help my cause for one in a few years. ALOT of car for your money.

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
6/7/10 7:02 p.m.
slefain wrote: The V6 Mustang, once the realm of secretaries and sister-in-laws is now knocking on serious doors here. The evil side of me is thinking that with a set of 4.10 gears, slicks, and a shot of nitrous high 12s are not far off.

Well, the secretaries and sisters-in-laws will still have their V6 Mustangs. Fast has officially been unleashed to the masses... It's kind of scary.

blaze86vic
blaze86vic Reader
6/7/10 7:38 p.m.

That's all well and good, and I think it's awesome the V6 model is going to be taking some names....but with the base V8 model pushing more than 400 ponies off the showroom floor, I think it's time that the every-day American V8 is going to put it self on the list of things to fear, once again!

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
6/7/10 7:57 p.m.
blaze86vic wrote: That's all well and good, and I think it's awesome the V6 model is going to be taking some names....but with the base V8 model pushing more than 400 ponies off the showroom floor, I think it's time that the every-day American V8 is going to put it self on the list of things to fear, once again!

which means the end is nigh...

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
6/7/10 7:59 p.m.
ignorant wrote:
blaze86vic wrote: That's all well and good, and I think it's awesome the V6 model is going to be taking some names....but with the base V8 model pushing more than 400 ponies off the showroom floor, I think it's time that the every-day American V8 is going to put it self on the list of things to fear, once again!
which means the end is nigh...

...Just as soon as they depreciate in value enough that we can start transplanting them into Miatas and S2000s.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
6/7/10 9:33 p.m.
ignorant wrote:
blaze86vic wrote: That's all well and good, and I think it's awesome the V6 model is going to be taking some names....but with the base V8 model pushing more than 400 ponies off the showroom floor, I think it's time that the every-day American V8 is going to put it self on the list of things to fear, once again!
which means the end is nigh...

Yep--1970 eventually turned into 1973 and all of the horsepower went bye-bye.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
6/7/10 9:54 p.m.
gamby wrote: Yep--1970 eventually turned into 1973 and all of the horsepower went bye-bye.

Yep, the insurance industry saw that uber-horsepower ratings and stupid energy-policies (Thanks, Congress!) were a simple way to justify raising premiums.

I sure hope capitalistic-driven technology will always find a way to stick a finger in the eyes of those who are "looking out for us".

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/7/10 10:18 p.m.
blaze86vic wrote: I think it's time that the every-day American V8 is going to put it self on the list of things to fear, once again!

it did 13 years ago in the form of the almighty LS series of engines. ford is just that far behind the game.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
6/8/10 4:42 a.m.
oldsaw wrote:
gamby wrote: Yep--1970 eventually turned into 1973 and all of the horsepower went bye-bye.
Yep, the insurance industry saw that uber-horsepower ratings and stupid energy-policies (Thanks, Congress!) were a simple way to justify raising premiums. I sure hope capitalistic-driven technology will always find a way to stick a finger in the eyes of those who are "looking out for us".

or the insurance industry was just being capitalistic and taking advantage of strong market position..

I'm just saying..

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/8/10 6:46 a.m.

was that 13.7 @ 102mph with the factory 2.73 gears, or the 3.31 gearset? the one that Ford Motor Company seems to have misplaced somewhere between the build order and the dealership has the 3.31 gears, and I think everyone related to me would rather I know the 1/4 time by someone else's experience rather than my own... even though it would be fun...

HiTempguy
HiTempguy HalfDork
6/8/10 10:03 a.m.
patgizz wrote: it did 13 years ago in the form of the almighty LS series of engines. ford is just that far behind the game.

Or the 5.7L Vortec over the 5.4L triton of arount that vintage.

In fact, Chevy has been pumping out good v8's for well over a decade now, its not GM's fault that Dodge and Ford had terribley lousy motors.

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
6/8/10 10:30 a.m.

In reply to Slyp_Dawg:

i think i read somewhere that ford was going to be offering a "pony package" v6 mustang that comes with the GT suspension, 3.31 gears, and some other styling cues

ultraclyde
ultraclyde Reader
6/8/10 11:09 a.m.

Yep, gotta getta forced induction....

Schmidlap
Schmidlap Reader
6/8/10 4:18 p.m.
Strizzo wrote: In reply to Slyp_Dawg: i think i read somewhere that ford was going to be offering a "pony package" v6 mustang that comes with the GT suspension, 3.31 gears, and some other styling cues

It's the Performance Package. Details are:

-A 3.31 rear axle ratio for quicker off-the-line acceleration -Mustang GT coupe front and rear stabilizer bars -Mustang GT front struts and rear shocks/springs -Shelby GT500 rear lower control arm -Unique 19-inch wheels -Pirelli performance tires for improved grip -Mustang GT front and rear brake calipers with Performance Friction pads -A strut tower brace for increased body rigidity -Unique electronic stability control calibration with Sport mode for performance driving -Unique badging

Copied from here:

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2009/news0285_2011_mustang_performance_package.php

With less weight, especially over the front tires, the V6 with the performance package will probably handle better than the GT with the same package.

Bob

MCarp22
MCarp22 Reader
6/8/10 4:57 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: The V6 Stang actually has better slalom and skid pad numbers than the V8. I would love to see one of each show up at an autocross and run SAM STRANO through them.

Fixed that for me.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
6/8/10 6:14 p.m.

Makes me wonder what a 5.0 with the 3.73 rear will do

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/8/10 6:43 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: Makes me wonder what a 5.0 with the 3.73 rear will do

Melt the back tires.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer Dork
6/10/10 9:52 p.m.

I just read this post the other day and came across a review of the new SHO, it runs a 13.7 quarter mile too. Subtract weight, add turbos, install in mustang. Hoontastic!

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
6/11/10 12:39 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: Makes me wonder what a 5.0 with the 3.73 rear will do

13.5?

seriously, look at the australian falcon models, the 5.4 liter boss model is technically faster in the 1/4 mile than the turbo I6, but not for long after that. the turbo 6 also handles better than the giant lump v8 model

GR40RACER
GR40RACER New Reader
6/11/10 1:04 a.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
patgizz wrote: it did 13 years ago in the form of the almighty LS series of engines. ford is just that far behind the game.
Or the 5.7L Vortec over the 5.4L triton of arount that vintage. In fact, Chevy has been pumping out good v8's for well over a decade now, its not GM's fault that Dodge and Ford had terribley lousy motors.

Maybe they're good, but they're not dominate. You LS boys can only dream of 4.6 ltr. factory motors capable of 1000bhp with simple bolt-ons and if FoMoCo had put the same Manley rods in the Condor (GT500) motor that they put in the Terminator (03-04 Cobra) motors, the Condor motor would be 1000whp with bolt-ons. As it is, the Condor is able to put down 800+whp with bolt-ons, how many sub-350ci factory LS motors can do that? The answer is NONE of them.

Ford's got it going on, GM and Chrysler are lucky to be hangin' on...

HiTempguy
HiTempguy HalfDork
6/11/10 8:05 a.m.
GR40RACER wrote: Ford's got it going on, GM and Chrysler are lucky to be hangin' on...

I totally agree. It just took them a decade s'all I'm sayin I even told my father to buy an F150 for cryin out loud!

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