...but 3'x3' is a standard size, and would give you more space in the bath.
...but 3'x3' is a standard size, and would give you more space in the bath.
How's this? Maybe build a 2x3 shower wall.
SV reX said:In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :
There is another problem with a shower that is 3' wide and 4' deep. If you pipe the diverter (shower valve) in the typical fashion (under the shower head), you won't be able to reach it from outside the shower. You will have to be standing in it (probably cold water) to turn it on.
It is possible to pipe the diverter onto a closer wall, but it's a lot more work.
You won't be able to use a stock fiberglass shower pan, it will cost more to build it, take long, and be more prone to leaking.
Good point on the drain pan. I was correct to think 3'x4' would be a common size, but at least upon a quick search they are setup for the opening on the long side. I could almost use one that's a 2 wall shower pan, but I feel like that's asking for more leaks than doing the whole shower pan from scratch with Schluter. Definitely something to consider....
Having the diverter valve offset won't be an issue really if accounted for while I have the walls apart. Definitely a good thing to remember to plan for when I have the walls apart though.
VolvoHeretic said:How's this? Maybe build a 2x3 shower wall.
That looks like my current plan! Thanks again for the drawings.
Shower wall being 2x3's is definitely something I am considering. I had planned to build in some shelves in a 2x4 wall for soaps, etc, as that would keep it out of sight, but there's two other walls I could use for those.
You are welcome. At least it sounds like you have another bathroom to use while you demo and rebuild this one. I have done bathrooms where the toilet had to be working every night, no matter what.
In reply to VolvoHeretic :
That is a lifesaver for sure. Half bath on the first floor, and a random shower in the basement to boot!
You guys got me thinking a lot with that suggestion to move the door. Really hadn't thought of that before.
Pulled up my floor layout tape for the fixtures, and made cardboard cutouts for the vanity, shower and toilet footprints. Moving them around I think I might have a new layout (including moving the door).
Need to make a footprint for the tub still to make sure. I think this weekend I'll try to nail down layout, as well as drain/joist mapping.
VolvoHeretic said:How's this?
This one is the way. It resolves the funky window position (further to the left than this shows) and it's just generally more spacious. Don't do the goofy end entry shower - the wall thickness kills your layout.
And SVRex is spitting so many truths.. read all of them three more times.
Schluter products are absolutely the real deal. I have installed two of the "no mud bed" shower kits myself in past homes and paid to have two done in my current house.
Lastly ... Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2004. I converted to Revit in the late 2000's but I am having ADT flashbacks thanks to this post. The last thing I drew in ADT around 2004 was a log cabin with all the exterior wall logs modeled. So many customization tools I can't even remember anymore
In reply to OHSCrifle :
I have tried Revit but I can't figure it out although I am impressed watching Youtube videos of people whipping roofs onto buildings. I feel that it just isn't accurate enough for weird custom design stuff.
That window is in the wrong location in that version but I like the ability to see who is on your lawn with the window right next to the toilet.
Here are a couple other versions. Too bad the 5'x5' corner triangular jet tub is too wide and hits the window and also crowds the toilet.
VolvoHeretic said:
This, but opposite is actually pretty close to what I was thinking.
Move doorway to roughly the middle.
Shower on the left side, close to the door, stand alone tub angled slightly in front of the window.
Right side, 18" linen cabinet, then 4' vanity, the toilet nearest to the outside wall.
Keeps the toilet well away from the window, it'll be used way more often than the tub. Also solves the shower entrance to be on the long side.
It's a bit more work, but it's a lot of work anyway, so I'd rather take the time and fully think it out and do it right.
With a 24" tall cabinet.
VH is stuck on auto play!
The freestanding tub on an angle creates a dead corner which is a nightmare to clean. (Free standing tubs are always a nightmare to clean around, but the dead corner is worse)
A 60"x60" spa type tub won't run into the window, it will be under it.
In reply to VolvoHeretic :
Those look great. One more with the oval tub parallel to the wall?
...and Revit is a huge pain to learn and master. I haven't mastered it because I don't use it every day. But I know how to do 99% of what I need to do with it (and I phone a friend when I get in over my head). Having to UN-learn Autocad is the hardest part of learning Revit. It's much easier if your brain wasn't hard wired to use one and two letter keyboard commands with your left hand!!
VolvoHeretic said:
VolvoHeretic said:
That's pretty much my current thoughts!
SV reX said:VH is stuck on auto play!
The freestanding tub on an angle creates a dead corner which is a nightmare to clean. (Free standing tubs are always a nightmare to clean around, but the dead corner is worse)
A 60"x60" spa type tub won't run into the window, it will be under it.
Cleaning the corner would definitely be awkward, but it won't be dead. I'm thinking it gives a nice little nook for a small table, or shelves on the wall for some plants, which she will love having a planned space for.
OHSCrifle said:In reply to VolvoHeretic :
Those look great. One more with the oval tub parallel to the wall?
Parallel to the left wall would not fit length-wise, parallel to the outside wall I think would be too close to the toilet.
Angled is slightly awkward, but we also kinda like the idea because the bathroom currently has a toilet on a weird angle, and it almost feels right to keep something similar in the house.
Do you need a separate shower and tub? It's a lot of room getting eaten up vs a combo setup.
If you need/want both, I wouldn't angle the tub, but I also wouldn't do a corner spa tub as it will never get used.
Some great ideas here, moving the door makes a lot of sense
In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :
I hear you, but I've never seen a free standing tub that wasn't utterly disgusting.
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:OHSCrifle said:In reply to VolvoHeretic :
Those look great. One more with the oval tub parallel to the wall?
Parallel to the left wall would not fit length-wise, parallel to the outside wall I think would be too close to the toilet.
Angled is slightly awkward, but we also kinda like the idea because the bathroom currently has a toilet on a weird angle, and it almost feels right to keep something similar in the house.
Why wouldn't it fit?
Use a 42" shower pan instead of a 48"
Steve_Jones said:Do you need a separate shower and tub? It's a lot of room getting eaten up vs a combo setup.
If you need/want both, I wouldn't angle the tub, but I also wouldn't do a corner spa tub as it will never get used.
Some great ideas here, moving the door makes a lot of sense
Separate shower/ clawfoot tub is a request of my wife which I am happy to accomodate.
SV reX said:AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:OHSCrifle said:In reply to VolvoHeretic :
Those look great. One more with the oval tub parallel to the wall?
Parallel to the left wall would not fit length-wise, parallel to the outside wall I think would be too close to the toilet.
Angled is slightly awkward, but we also kinda like the idea because the bathroom currently has a toilet on a weird angle, and it almost feels right to keep something similar in the house.
Why wouldn't it fit?
Use a 42" shower pan instead of a 48"
42" shower pan is a thought...
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:Steve_Jones said:Do you need a separate shower and tub? It's a lot of room getting eaten up vs a combo setup.
If you need/want both, I wouldn't angle the tub, but I also wouldn't do a corner spa tub as it will never get used.
Some great ideas here, moving the door makes a lot of sense
Separate shower/ clawfoot tub is a request of my wife which I am happy to accomodate.
That's what I figured. I'd do 42 shower and straight tub.
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