curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/27/16 5:57 p.m.

Building a few stair units for my next set and don't want anyone to die. (too much paperwork)

Stair units are 4' wide (with the exception of one that is 3'6"), either 8/10 rise or 8/12 rise, and built with 2x12s and 5/4" treads. I'll be using three stringers (code would technically call for four, but this is going to be used by one actor for two weeks)

The longest is an 8-step unit (96" horizontal run). Risers are 3/4" ply and will be screwed into the backs of the treads for additional support.

Can I get away without a center support? Designer says we can, but he's a designer, not an engineer.

Would it help to attach some stiffening inside the stringers? I only have about a 5" throat so I could do 5" strips of ply glued and screwed, but that doesn't seem like it would add much. Thoughts?

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
8/27/16 7:27 p.m.

Just did this very thing a few weeks ago for "Much Ado About Nothing". 2 stringers were not too shaky, but that's also because we were using 3/4 ply treads. 5/4 treads would stiffen it up even more. Unless there are dance numbers on the stairs!

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/27/16 9:13 p.m.

I think you'll be fine without the center stringer.

Hal
Hal UltraDork
8/28/16 12:33 p.m.

Sounds fine to me. They will be much stronger than the cellar steps in the wife's aunt's house which have been there since 1940.

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/30/16 3:57 p.m.

Thanks for the feedback. I did it with 2 stringers and didn't like it (for reasons described below) so I added a third

The reason I didn't like it was because my stock of 5/4 bullnose stair tread is all standard 11.5", so when doing 12" runs I had to add a 1" spacer at the back. Normally, I screw through the back of the 3/4" riser into the back of the tread to support the middle of the step, but with a 1" spacer to go through I didn't trust it quite as much.

I took a quick shot of the 8-step 8/12 unit. Its overkill :)

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/30/16 4:05 p.m.

As the father of an actor/singer/dancer, I say overbuild it.

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