N Sperlo wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
Chic-Fil-A is only above KFC as far as a chicken place and we have Bojangles and Popeyes anyway so I never go.
Also now I want fried chicken.
Whaaaa? I love KFC's greasy greasy chicken. Yummmm... Grease.... I know what's for dinner tonight.
KFC is el sucko. Just saying and I am from Kentucky.
I used to like Guthrie's. They might be out of business around here now. Zaxby's is decent. CFA just seemed the least greasy.
Of all the chicken places mentioned here, the only one we have other than Chick is KFC. No Cane's, Popeye's, Guthrie's, Zaxby's or anything else like those.
Otto Maddox wrote:
I used to like Guthrie's. They might be out of business around here now. Zaxby's is decent. CFA just seemed the least greasy.
Guthrie's is amazing. I eat there whenever I am in Cullman.
93EXCivic wrote:
KFC is el sucko. Just saying and I am from Kentucky.
Well, you don't see ME shoving toasted ravioli down YOUR throat, now DO you?
He can advise against it, but considering the Mayor of Boston didn't oppose a Mosque being built along the same "Freedom Trail" he's got issues already. That Mosque is used by islamic worshippers who do believe it's fine to stone homosexuals to death. Christianity simply calls the lifestyle a sin. So if Menino goes all out against CFA, he's pretty much toast legally.
Chicago has other issues to worry about than keeping a business with good morals out.
aircooled wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Let's flip the argument another way: around here sexually oriented businesses (strip clubs, porn stores) are prohibited from being located within a certain distance (IIRC it is now 1000 feet) of a church, school, etc. Recently a dirty bookstore opened in an area where they were just outside of the distance, the city RETROACTIVELY changed the distance.....
I think you have your answer right here.
I believe there are similar laws involving liquor stores in some areas.
The point being, these are laws which were enacted to support a particular moral stance. But they did not outright prohibit the opening of the business in question. It's also the same reason Westboro can't be denied a march permit.
If CFA applies for a permit and there is no good reason for denying the permit, then there will be a huge problem for that municipality.
Has it occurred to anyone that this is just pandering? I'd say that, in most large, Democrat-leaning cities, gay marriage has a pretty high support rate. By coming out and criticizing CFA, public officials look good to those voters without actually doing anything, policy-wise, that would cross the line. It's win-win for them, why wouldn't they do it?
And for the record, we are very deprived when it comes to chicken restaurants in Michigan. It's pretty much KFC and that's it.
Anti-stance wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
You're right though, I shouldn't have called it a E36 M3hole. My bad. I forget real people live there.
I think Atlanta is a E36 M3hole and live near there. I have no pride for this city.
Not a fan of big cities in general, but as far as big cities go, ATL is my fave. Then again, I've spent the most time there. Even though he's the latest in a string of E36 M3 Mayors, Kasim Reed isn't even near the same realm of "slimey" as Rahm Emanuel. I swear that dude has horns.
I'd be shocked if CFA hasn't seen a huge surge in business this week. Not because people are protesting gay marriage, but because all this talk of fried chicken has GOT ME berkeleyING STARVING! EDIT: Mama is picking up some for me on the way to the shop.
yawn
...In more important news...
N Sperlo wrote:
In reply to scardeal:
I think most here would agree that CFA shouldn't be banned from anywhere that a McDonalds isn't. I won't buy their because I don't agree with what they are preaching and by doing so, I make a political statement. In no way does religion play into it for me. I think many here are along those lines.
CFA is a private business and may support whatever religion they would like. I was raised catholic and found my beliefs differ, but still carry many values of the faith.
The political statement they are making is offensive to me. I will have KFC tonight.
(Scardeal, I know you weren't targeting anyone here.)
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I think what you're doing is perfectly reasonable. I myself try to avoid giving support of businesses that have come out publicly in support of things I disagree with. And it wouldn't be any surprise to most here that I'm happy with the CFA's announcement, and would go there more often if there were any in my area.
What's distressing to me is that it is SO difficult to have a peaceful, rational conversation between people of opposing viewpoints. It seems like Facebook is full of obnoxious pictures with words making fun of an opposing viewpoint for both sides, whether its religion or politics. I feel like this ceaseless lampooning, rather than leading to dialogue and hopefully some resolution, has simply increased the rancor between those of opposing viewpoints and not been a meeting of the minds and hearts.
People need to remember that both sides are human beings, and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect for that reason. We don't have to agree, but understanding the viewpoints of both sides of the issue needs to be present for us to live in any semblance of harmony. Unfortunately (and I'm thinking specifically of 2 instances not related to this debate) there are instances where the underlying motivations make any sort of coexistence absolutely impossible, and I fear that is where we're headed as a nation and a culture.
scardeal wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
In reply to scardeal:
I think most here would agree that CFA shouldn't be banned from anywhere that a McDonalds isn't. I won't buy their because I don't agree with what they are preaching and by doing so, I make a political statement. In no way does religion play into it for me. I think many here are along those lines.
CFA is a private business and may support whatever religion they would like. I was raised catholic and found my beliefs differ, but still carry many values of the faith.
The political statement they are making is offensive to me. I will have KFC tonight.
(Scardeal, I know you weren't targeting anyone here.)
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I think what you're doing is perfectly reasonable. I myself try to avoid giving support of businesses that have come out publicly in support of things I disagree with. And it wouldn't be any surprise to most here that I'm happy with the CFA's announcement, and would go there more often if there were any in my area.
What's distressing to me is that it is SO difficult to have a peaceful, rational conversation between people of opposing viewpoints. It seems like Facebook is full of obnoxious pictures with words making fun of an opposing viewpoint for both sides, whether its religion or politics. I feel like this ceaseless lampooning, rather than leading to dialogue and hopefully some resolution, has simply increased the rancor between those of opposing viewpoints and not been a meeting of the minds and hearts.
People need to remember that both sides are human beings, and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect for that reason. We don't have to agree, but understanding the viewpoints of both sides of the issue needs to be present for us to live in any semblance of harmony. Unfortunately (and I'm thinking specifically of 2 instances not related to this debate) there are instances where the underlying motivations make any sort of coexistence absolutely impossible, and I fear that is where we're headed as a nation and a culture.
Solution: Kill your Facebook account.
In reply to scardeal:
Now there's two things we agree on.
LGBT = ?
I get the LG but not the BT
In reply to carguy123:
Had me scratching my head, too.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Bi-sexual Trans-sexual
OK, now I'm really confused so what are the LGBT RIGHTS that are being trampled?
Beliefs and preferences are one thing but RIGHTS are another thing altogether!
gamby
PowerDork
7/26/12 11:58 a.m.
carguy123 wrote:
The moment someone makes a public statement in favor of traditional Christian morals, it's like its open game to protest them, make fun of them or discriminate against them, and have that action be lauded in public squares. It's anything BUT the tolerance which seems to be so preached these days.
Amen Brother!
That's because it's fair game to criticize those who do the discriminating. It's 2012. Gay people aren't second-class citizens.
Let them build a CFA, though--I won't eat there.
I like Menino's message to them, FWIW
In reply to carguy123:
Equal rights. Rights to get married etc. CFA supports anti-gay groups by donating fat stacks of cash.
poopshovel wrote:
Solution: Kill your Facebook account.
I've certainly considered it. My wife somewhat regularly does a "facebook fast" for weeks at a time to avoid certain things.
Let's put this another way...... If the mayors of Boston, chicago and councilmen from San Fran were blocking a restraunt owned by a LBGT person, what would we say?
Its the same thing, buton the other shoe. They are discriminating based on sexual preference and that is just as wrong legally and morally as it is the other way.
They've officially gone from being the "less desirables" to the JBT's (Jack Boot Thugs). congratulations.... your transformation is complete.... no pun intended.
Wow. This has been awesome. Not! Is there one documented case where CFA has discriminated against a customer or employee becasue of sexual orientation? If not, I bet there will be pretty soon.
I'm just glad that next time I go to CFA I won't have to put up with the LBGT crowd and whiney pandering liberals. Crowd should be really small so I can just sashay up and get a tea refill with no problemo.
BTW when you leave the counter at CFA, they say "It was my pleasure" after you thank them for serving you. Way way diferent that the grunt or scowl you get at a lot of Hardees and Wendys.
N Sperlo wrote:
In reply to carguy123:
Equal rights. Rights to get married etc. CFA supports anti-gay groups by donating fat stacks of cash.
Unless I'm missing something Gays & Lesbians don't have the RIGHT to get married in many places so they can't be trampling them by telling people they don't agree with that RIGHT and selling tasteless chicken sandwiches.
Now I understand that they want that right, but it's not a right as of yet.