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pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/30/12 8:19 a.m.

Anne Romney said she had a great time in Puerto Rico, and then said "you people know how to party". I think the term "you people" is a term that alienates and shows some prejudice. Same with "those people". I think "the people of Puerto Rico" would have been better. It's not like dropping the N-word, but if I were a PR person or speech writer, I would recommend avoiding it. What do you think?

(about that term...not the Romneys or the Republicans, or the Obamas or the Democrats...)

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/30/12 8:20 a.m.

What do you mean "PR person"...?

Duke
Duke PowerDork
8/30/12 8:21 a.m.

I think that you people have way too little to be upset about if that kind of casual wording means anything to you.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
8/30/12 8:22 a.m.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
8/30/12 8:26 a.m.

I think you people that get your panties in a wad over something like that ought to turn off the tv and go get some air.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
8/30/12 8:28 a.m.
PHeller wrote: How bout the lady NPR interviewed this morning who said "she couldn't stand to look at Obama" and that the first lady "didn't look like a first lady."

Does that even hold the remotest candle to most of the offensive stuff said about Bush II, that nobody gave a second thought about?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/30/12 8:29 a.m.

I think you people are too goddamn sensitive.

slefain
slefain SuperDork
8/30/12 8:30 a.m.

Why was Anne Romney in Puerto Rico anyway? Are they trying to pick up more New York voters? Last I heard there were no tax havens in Puerto Rico either.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury UltimaDork
8/30/12 8:30 a.m.

celica beat me to it...

PHeller
PHeller SuperDork
8/30/12 8:30 a.m.

Earlier comment removed because I didn't want you people to flounder.

xflowgolf
xflowgolf Reader
8/30/12 8:32 a.m.

I think it depends how it is used. "you people" when used as a positive (as is this case), though grammatically lazy, isn't derogatory.

when a sentence starts.. ."the problem with you people... " or "what is it is with you people..." etc. then the intention is typically to generalize and stereotype, so it sets someone on gaurd and raises their defenses for what is implied.

The term itself is not a slur, it's just generally used in context of a derogatory remark so it's association is linked.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/30/12 8:33 a.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

That was the first thing that came to mind.

slefain
slefain SuperDork
8/30/12 8:34 a.m.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
8/30/12 8:41 a.m.

Only to retards.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/30/12 8:42 a.m.
slefain wrote:

"yutes?"

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
8/30/12 8:51 a.m.

Youse guys gots too thin of a skin.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
8/30/12 8:56 a.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote: Only to retards.

Summed it up better than I could have.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Dork
8/30/12 8:56 a.m.
xflowgolf wrote: I think it depends how it is used. "you people" when used as a positive (as is this case), though grammatically lazy, isn't derogatory. when a sentence starts.. ."the problem with you people... " or "what is it is with you people..." etc. then the intention is typically to generalize and stereotype, so it sets someone on gaurd and raises their defenses for what is implied. The term itself is not a slur, it's just generally used in context of a derogatory remark so it's association is linked.

It may be lazy, but I think it’s intentionally so to be more 'folksy' or to have more in common with ‘regular people’ The Romney’s are fighting a battle of appearing alienated from ‘normal people’

Note, this is not in support or against either them or any party.

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
8/30/12 8:57 a.m.

You people is an all inclusive term to allow you to talk positively without forgetting a name. Like on the Emmys when they are always trying to recite a list and forget someone.

Methinks you must be a Dem and are trying to make something out of nothing.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/30/12 9:00 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: Methinks you must be a Dem and are trying to make something out of nothing.

Methinks you must be a rep and are stereotyping.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
8/30/12 9:04 a.m.

I once saw a substitute band teacher disappear into a mob he had just called "you people" who were of differing ethnicity to him. The last I saw of the sub was his glasses flying up into the air. "We people" exited the bandroom and headed to the office to report the riot, but I admit, we made our way up there pretty slowly, because the comment was just the capper on several days' worth of obviously bigoted comments from this guy, and we decided he had it coming.

Yes, my high school was a bit rough, but it did have a way of taking care of things.

Margie

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
8/30/12 9:06 a.m.

In Minnesota we say, "You guys."

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/30/12 9:06 a.m.

Depends on context, but it can always be taken as a slur by people who want to see it as a slur, so I'd say avoid it.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/30/12 9:11 a.m.
stuart in mn wrote: In Minnesota we say, "You guys."

That is terribly offensive to women, you people should be ashamed.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
8/30/12 9:12 a.m.

You people are getting on my nerves with your damn politics.

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