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integraguy
integraguy SuperDork
2/6/12 8:29 a.m.

I once posted a topic on here asking the question:

Has Nicholas Cage EVER made a decent movie?

Well, last night (actually, some time before last night) we went too far. I don't really care for Mr. Cage's actting, or at least the choices of roles he's taken so far, but last night I was watching something BESIDES the SuperBowl. Yeah, that kind of takes the legitimacy out of this post, I guess. Anyway, the next movie "on deck, so to speak" is a movie I had not seen or heard of before...NEXT.

The digital "guide" preceding the movie says it's based on a Philip K. Dick story. Mr. D's books have been the basis for many great movies, like BladeRunner and Total Recall. And I'm a big fan of Mr. D's writings, at one time I owned copies of everything he had written that was printted. We are talking 3 or 4 DOZEN books/short story collections. Anyway, the movie starts: "Starring Nicholas Cage". Dang it. But it got worse, because Mr. Cage was an Executive Producer of the movie. That is, Mr. Cage was the person who wanted the book (actually, a short story) brought to the screen. Then, the movie started. MORE CRAP. NEXT is based on the SHORT story, "The Golden Man". BUT, after watching just a few minutes of this...? To say NEXT was based on, is about as accurate as saying American Idol is based on Cinderella.

Golden Man takes place in a future where mutantS are rounded up (ostensibly? for government "use"), in NEXT, Mr. Cage's character has the ability to see a few minutes into the future, can see ALL possible futures (THOSE parts are from the book) and he at one point escapes form the custody of the government...those three "ideas/concepts" are all that survive from the story.

In the story, there is no nuke, no hostage situation, and the Golden Man does NOT allow himself to get caught NOR, does he go "OOOPS, I made a mistake" so the producers can have a stupid twist ending. His "ability does not allow his to make mistakes. That, and Golden Man has a "striking appearance, one that has an affect on women"....Mr. Cage does not.

Sorry for the long rant.

scardeal
scardeal HalfDork
2/6/12 8:44 a.m.

I do think he made a couple of decent movies, but his ratio of good:bad has gone way downhill.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/6/12 8:47 a.m.
integraguy wrote: I once posted a topic on here asking the question: Has Nicholas Cage EVER made a decent movie?

Raising Arizona.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
2/6/12 8:49 a.m.

I'm trying to think of a PKD story that made it into movie form unadulterated. Blade Runner sure didn't and Total Recall didn't either.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
2/6/12 8:51 a.m.

Yep, 'Raising Arizona' is pretty much the only thing he did that's really worth watching, but a huge part of the credit for that goes to Holly Hunter. Cage pretty much ruined 'Ghost Rider'.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
2/6/12 8:56 a.m.

"sounds like the left bank is runnin lean." - Memphis Raines, Gone in 60 Seconds...

Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjZuGas6yRQ

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
2/6/12 8:58 a.m.

Decent? I can think of a few GOOD movies with Nicolas Cage in them: Face/Off, Raising Arizona, Adaptation, and Matchstick Men. Decent films could be The Rock, Kick-Ass, and Lord of War. And SOMEBODY will add Gone in 60 Seconds to this list, but that movie was crap at best.

Of course, he also was in Ghost Rider, The Wicker Man, and probably a dozen other terrible films. But what actor has made a dozen bombs?

MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
2/6/12 8:59 a.m.

Is anyone else alarmed by the suggestion that Total Recall is a great movie?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:02 a.m.

Lord of War was a good movie.

fasted58
fasted58 SuperDork
2/6/12 9:03 a.m.

I did like this..

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:03 a.m.

I liked this, too.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
2/6/12 9:05 a.m.

^^^ who's the blonde?

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
2/6/12 9:09 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I liked this, too.

Ooof, remind me to never ask you for movie recommendations.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:11 a.m.

I didn't say it was a GOOD movie... just that i liked it.

I like to watch movies with explosions and violence with no mental stimulation whatsoever from time to time.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:11 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: ^^^ who's the blonde?

Amber Heard, i believe.

Pretty sure she's been on TGUK.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
2/6/12 9:12 a.m.

It is almost like Cage is the result of nepotism or something.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
2/6/12 9:14 a.m.

Leaving Las Vegas was good. Raising Arizona was good. My wife likes Valley Girl. All the rest of his movies are average or sucky.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
2/6/12 9:16 a.m.

Leaving Las Vegas was a very good film. I will probably never watch it again. I mean watching a man drink himself to death isn't a good time. but the movie was good and Cage was excellent in it.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:16 a.m.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
2/6/12 9:18 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: ^^^ who's the blonde?

Amber something, a bi,gun totting hottie that took a lap in the Reasonably Priced Car.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
2/6/12 9:19 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Lord of War was a good movie.

Forgot about that one. Yes it was pretty good but it suited his 'style'. He's been pretty bad in everything else he's done though. 'Ghost Rider' in particular: great story, solid following from the comic book series, great CGI and he singlehandedly manages to nearly destroy the whole thing. I think that they had it reversed: Sam Elliott should have been GR.

'National Treasure' and its spinoffs, same thing.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar Dork
2/6/12 9:24 a.m.
fasted58 wrote: I did like this..

"Did I ever tell ya that this here jacket represents a symbol of my individuality, and my belief in personal freedom?"

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/6/12 9:26 a.m.
Curmudgeon wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Lord of War was a good movie.
Forgot about that one. Yes it was pretty good but it suited his 'style'. He's been pretty bad in everything else he's done though. 'Ghost Rider' in particular: great story, solid following from the comic book series, great CGI and he singlehandedly manages to nearly destroy the whole thing. I think that they had it reversed: Sam Elliott should have been GR. 'National Treasure' and its spinoffs, same thing.

I kindof think Jared Leto stole the show in Lord of War, personally, but Cage was not terrible.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
2/6/12 9:27 a.m.

Lord of War was good. Pretty much every thing else he does sucks bad. I don't bother with his stuff anymore, after getting burned on the last bunch of them.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar Dork
2/6/12 9:29 a.m.
ditchdigger wrote: Leaving Las Vegas was a very good film. I will probably never watch it again. I mean watching a man drink himself to death isn't a good time. but the movie was good and Cage was excellent in it.

We saw it in the theater. At the end of the movie my buddy turned to me and said "The feelgood movie of the year!" Two older ladies behind us got all worked up over that. Guess they just didn't get sarcasm.

It was a damned good movie though.

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