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EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 12:35 p.m.

In reply to bluej:

Account approved!

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
7/6/17 12:47 p.m.

So wait, we can use photoberk it and it changes to leave our existing photobucket links intact?

I confused, and I am not updating my 100+ page build thread.

I registered for it anyway.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 12:50 p.m.

In reply to tuna55:

Unfortunately no, the photobucket links will still be dead. You can upload photos to photoberkit and edit previous threads to relink images. Your account has been approved.

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/6/17 12:59 p.m.

I just registered. Thanks for doing this as I was just getting up the motivation to start filling out my build thread.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:00 p.m.

In reply to jj:

It's just a matter of time. They have changed their Terms of Service and will not be supporting third party hosting unless you want to cough up 4 bills per month. See Crackers' post on page 3 of this thread for the TOS.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:05 p.m.

In reply to stafford1500:

Account approved.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
7/6/17 1:21 p.m.

registered on photoberkit

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
7/6/17 1:21 p.m.

In reply to EastCoastMojo:

Oh, then I am screwed. There are way too many pages to do that.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:22 p.m.

In reply to oldtin:

Account approved

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:22 p.m.

In reply to tuna55:

That's why everyone is freaking out.

Mezzanine
Mezzanine Dork
7/6/17 1:34 p.m.

Photoberkit is blocked by my company because it is an unknown category. My company filters don't block ANYTHING but actual porn. Perhaps there is a setting or categorization that isn't set on the site?

I also can't view the photos hosted there and hotlinked here.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
7/6/17 1:34 p.m.
jj wrote: Here is my old build thread. Pics still there on a free photobucket account. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/budget-volvo-740-track-car-build/61804/page1/ what am I missing?

When was the last time you logged into their website?

[youmaynotwanttotry]

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:36 p.m.

In reply to Mezzanine:

There's only a little porn. Just kidding. I will let Stampie answer this one as I am not an expert on the existing settings.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
7/6/17 1:52 p.m.

Registered...this is freaking awesome

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
7/6/17 1:54 p.m.

In reply to 4cylndrfury:

Account approved

Harvey
Harvey GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/6/17 2:54 p.m.

I gotta say folks, I've been through this Internet hosting thing a few times as I create software for a living and while I don't want to rain on anyone's parade and doubtless this is done with the best intentions, it seems like a colossally bad idea to switch to using someone's personal website as a hosting provider for hosting images on a site like GRM that gets a lot of traffic.

The problems as I've personally experienced with people doing this are numerous, but these are the big ones.

A. You're relying on one person to manage hosting for dozens, maybe hundreds of users. This single point of failure is always a problem.

B. Whatever host (or hosting account) they are using is probably not setup with the sort of backups and reliability that one would expect from someone serving content to a lot of people. This means security updates and backups are left to that person who setup the site... (see A). If they are setup with that sort of reliability such as hosting on a cloud provider then go straight to C.

C. Hosting costs money. Bandwidth and storage cost money. Inevitably, this becomes an issue. Maybe it's not an issue now, but at some point it will be. If the person hosting has some deal it will inevitably go away. When this happens some people solve this on their own via ads or other mechanisms, changing hosts, etc. Other times it becomes a donation drive to pay for the hosting.

I'm really not understanding why people would avoid the imgur.com option.

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
7/6/17 3:09 p.m.

I switcjed to imgur for my latest build thread. Seems fine to me

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
7/6/17 3:33 p.m.
Harvey wrote: I'm really not understanding why people would avoid the imgur.com option.

According to Wikipedia PB has over 100 million users. If this causes the understandable mass exodus that you could expect, I don't see ANY free public 3rd party hosting site being a reliable long term service.

How are sites like imgur going to handle this issue? I don't see how free 3rd party hosting will stay viable for very long.

I'd rather wait for the dust to settle before deciding on a public hosting option.

Harvey
Harvey GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/6/17 3:38 p.m.
Crackers wrote:
Harvey wrote: I'm really not understanding why people would avoid the imgur.com option.
According to Wikipedia PB has over 100 million users. If this causes the understandable mass exodus that you could expect, I don't see ANY free public 3rd party hosting site being a reliable long term service. How are sites like imgur going to handle this issue? I don't see how free 3rd party hosting will stay viable for very long. I'd rather wait for the dust to settle before deciding on a public hosting option.

Photobucket was a dumping ground for photos. There was nothing else to it.

Imgur has been around for eight years now and has an actual community built up around it and the comments on the public submissions it takes. It makes money while at the same time serving the majority of the photo content you see on Reddit. It can handle whatever is thrown at it.

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/6/17 3:38 p.m.
Crackers wrote:
Harvey wrote: I'm really not understanding why people would avoid the imgur.com option.
According to Wikipedia PB has over 100 million users. If this causes the understandable mass exodus that you could expect, I don't see ANY free public 3rd party hosting site being a reliable long term service. How are sites like imgur going to handle this issue? I don't see how free 3rd party hosting will stay viable for very long. I'd rather wait for the dust to settle before deciding on a public hosting option.

Imgur already has issues thanks to its heavy use on Reddit. To the point that Reddit now has their own picture hosting solution for their members.

I already have a google website and if I could more easily upload pictures to it, then I'd use that instead, but they want me to use Google Photos, which is fine, but hotlinking isn't as easy, but I'll muddle through.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
7/6/17 3:44 p.m.

I appreciate the mods here of providing a solution. Also prepared to host my own photos if needed.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/6/17 4:24 p.m.

Conesare2seconds you're approved but I thought you were before.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/6/17 4:30 p.m.
Harvey wrote: I gotta say folks, I've been through this Internet hosting thing a few times as I create software for a living and while I don't want to rain on anyone's parade and doubtless this is done with the best intentions, it seems like a colossally bad idea to switch to using someone's personal website as a hosting provider for hosting images on a site like GRM that gets a lot of traffic. The problems as I've personally experienced with people doing this are numerous, but these are the big ones. A. You're relying on one person to manage hosting for dozens, maybe hundreds of users. This single point of failure is always a problem. B. Whatever host (or hosting account) they are using is probably not setup with the sort of backups and reliability that one would expect from someone serving content to a lot of people. This means security updates and backups are left to that person who setup the site... (see A). If they are setup with that sort of reliability such as hosting on a cloud provider then go straight to C. C. Hosting costs money. Bandwidth and storage cost money. Inevitably, this becomes an issue. Maybe it's not an issue now, but at some point it will be. If the person hosting has some deal it will inevitably go away. When this happens some people solve this on their own via ads or other mechanisms, changing hosts, etc. Other times it becomes a donation drive to pay for the hosting. I'm really not understanding why people would avoid the imgur.com option.

A) Always been the intention to be run by a group of community volunteers. Right now there's two. I started a pretty active forum and I agree with you totally.

B) I'm aware of the issue and looking at solutions.

C) Mostly likely would need a donation drive but this was intended for the users looking at getting their own hosting. This way that cost can be shared.

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
7/6/17 4:33 p.m.

In reply to Stampie:

I've registered on Photoberkit but now have an paid account on Smugmug. Smugmug appears to be working OK. I'd only use 'berkit for backup now and don't wanna be a hog. You can delete my 'berkit account... or I could as well. Somebody needs this more than me.

Thanks for all the help!

edit: account deleted

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/6/17 5:51 p.m.
Mezzanine wrote: Photoberkit is blocked by my company because it is an unknown category. My company filters don't block ANYTHING but actual porn. Perhaps there is a setting or categorization that isn't set on the site? I also can't view the photos hosted there and hotlinked here.

It sounds like your company is whitelisting sites. This means that they approve all sites you can go to. Usually they get their list from a third party company that categorizes the websites. Since we're new we haven't been categorized and therefore whitelisted. So basically you're berked until that happens.

But that makes me think I've missed my calling. Someone had to go to all the porn sites, you know to ensure they were actually porn. How do I apply for that job?

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