So about beer...

You know, I get people liking different beer, liking their craft beer, their fruity beer, whatever.

But I draw the line at a beer that TASTES (not invokes the taste, or smells like) pine needles.

That E36 M3 is just wrong. I have never had a desire to lick pine needles, and I don't intend to ever drink something that TASTES like them.

The only thing I appreciate it for is the ability to get people to admit they like the taste of wood in their mouths.

So no gin either then I assume?

Too many hops at the finish of the wort

keethrax wrote: So no gin either then I assume?

QFT!

captdownshift wrote: Too many hops at the finish of the wort

There is no such thing as too much hops.

I like Gin and I've like IPA's since way before they were cool. And I love the smell of evergreens- christmas wouldn't be the same without that sap smell.

If you want to invoke that H Word, then go ahead, but I wear boot cut jeans (with boots) and ride a multispeed bike. And to invoke more H'ness, I was the first to +1 your love of hops.

In reply to Lancer007:

In total, no, but when you add them to the wort in the boil process does come into play

Oh, we tried to make a batch of this spruce lager that was in the homebrew bible about a decade ago. For the love of all that is holy, never make that mistake.

Pine is a great smell, but it is not to be taken internally.

HiTempguy wrote: The only thing I appreciate it for is the ability to get people to admit they like the taste of wood in their mouths.

She'll never admit to that.

I'm just waiting for some brewery to start bottling a ∞ IBU quintuple IPA with a hop cone in every bottle. Then maybe everybody will realize how ridiculous it's gotten.

Overhopped beers make me sad.
Too many brewers are doing the 'add more hops!' thing these days.

Unrelated note: Stone's Xocoveza Mocha stout is terrible, tried it this morning, ew.

Fortunately, there are many other beers that don't taste like pine trees.

SnowMongoose wrote: Overhopped beers make me sad. Too many brewers are doing the 'add more hops!' thing these days.

QFT.
Hopefully the Mega hopping trend will vanish soon, like neon colors when the eighties ended.

Lancer007 wrote:

captdownshift wrote: Too many hops at the finish of the wort

There is no such thing as too much hops.

You're dead to me.

stuart in mn wrote: Fortunately, there are many other beers that don't taste like pine trees.

Ya, but its hard to take some random shiny happy person seriously at a christmas party your girlfriend's friends are having and you are all "WTF IS THIS E36 M3??!"

I don't have much of a filter for bullE36 M3. I refuse to believe somebody actually likes drinking pine sol. Thats like saying everclear tastes "ok".

HiTempguy wrote:

stuart in mn wrote: Fortunately, there are many other beers that don't taste like pine trees.

Ya, but its hard to take some random shiny happy person seriously at a christmas party your girlfriend's friends are having and you are all "WTF IS THIS E36 M3??!" I don't have much of a filter for bullE36 M3. I refuse to believe somebody actually likes drinking pine sol. Thats like saying everclear tastes "ok".

I don't remember everclear tasting like anything. Of course, I don't remember anything else about that night either.

On a semi-related note, the Great Lakes Christmas Ale is very tasty.

I don't like hop bomb beers. I like a nice well balanced beer like a good German lager or a brown ale.

Then again, there are people that don't get me either, I like my beer blacker than a lawyers' soul...... and as chewy as a steak.

mndsm wrote:

Lancer007 wrote:

captdownshift wrote: Too many hops at the finish of the wort

There is no such thing as too much hops.

You're dead to me.

Perhaps I should have differentiated between super bitter unpalatable beers and super hoppy beers that still maintain the bright citrusy, floral aromas and tastes without being bitter.

Try a any fresh hop beer by Sierra Nevada and those are the hoppy qualities I love.

Lancer007 wrote: Perhaps I should have differentiated between super bitter unpalatable beers and super hoppy beers that still maintain the bright citrusy, floral aromas and tastes without being bitter. Try a any fresh hop beer by Sierra Nevada and those are the hoppy qualities I love.

OK, you might not be dead to me, because a bright citrusy hippy beer without that pine needle death business can be tasty on a warm summer day.

Kenny_McCormic wrote: ...... Then maybe everybody will realize how ridiculous it's gotten.

The constant whining about IPA's on this website?

I'm not whining about IPA, or hop forward beer in general for that matter. The whining is more about crappy IPAs that people seemingly pretend to enjoy drinking because they think it makes them look trendy or some bullE36 M3 like that.

Kenny_McCormic wrote: I'm not whining about IPA, or hop forward beer in general for that matter. The whining is more about crappy IPAs that people seemingly pretend to enjoy drinking because they think it makes them look trendy or some bullE36 M3 like that.

One local bar has 4 IPA's on tap. The only lager type beer that they have is PBR. Seriously? You can't even put in a Stella, or similar?

I HATE IPA's. (that statement seems like I am shouting even though I only meant punctuation on the HATE).

Give me pretty much anything else and I am in heaven.

Porters and stouts? YES Please!

Wheat beers? Uh Huh.

Good "traditional" lager? Sure!

Nice Amber Ale" Mmmmmm.

Sours? <--berkeleying gross.