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Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
9/23/18 10:47 p.m.

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
9/23/18 11:27 p.m.

How about raising taxes to fund research and inspection by the NIH and FDA?

No? OK

 

Well for the OP. There isn't a good data set to guarantee any contents or quality of food growing. Even 100% inspection doesn't get you 100% certainty. 

If you want to maximize your certainty of what is in your food then find a local farming community that you can trust to sell what you want directly. Crops without round up get expensive purely to compensate for lost yield and or harvesting around weeds. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/23/18 11:37 p.m.
Knurled. said:

I would like to point out that Monsanto's patent on glyphosate is expired, meaning they can't make royalty money off of it.....

So, what you are saying is that Monsanto is behind pushing the stories that glyphosate causes cancer, thus creating a push to eliminate it.  

Hey, what do you know, Monsanto has just developed a nice and patented replacement for it....

devil

rustybugkiller
rustybugkiller HalfDork
9/24/18 3:27 a.m.
Advan046 said:

How about raising taxes to fund research and inspection by the NIH and FDA?

No? OK

 

Well for the OP. There isn't a good data set to guarantee any contents or quality of food growing. Even 100% inspection doesn't get you 100% certainty. 

If you want to maximize your certainty of what is in your food then find a local farming community that you can trust to sell what you want directly. Crops without round up get expensive purely to compensate for lost yield and or harvesting around weeds. 

What bugs me is our food source is being contaminated and over processed for profit causing increased health issues for Americans. Gastrointestinal issues have been on the increase for years. However, health care has continued to become more of a disaster for patients. I’ve spent my summer fighting the insurance companies and worthless doctors trying to get relief. But that topic is it’s own lighting rod of adventure!

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
9/25/18 5:46 p.m.

In reply to rustybugkiller :

I actually don't think our foods are overprocessed. I think that like violence, the knowledge of any food related problem is now instantly communicated and often only sound bite sized versions of the issue. 

Add to that the effort to keep food prices low through artificial financial means. Thus the American cultural focus is on Cheaper versus Quality in any food choice. 

So companies are stuck trying to make food cheaper and thus choosing the least cost processing options over quality. 

So a fig Newton can still be 50¢ even though it has a lower quality taste and feel. 

If everyone started buying only locally produced foods of high quality with higher operating costs then Nabisco, Monsanto, etc would jump in too. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
9/26/18 10:27 a.m.
aircooled said:
Knurled. said:

I would like to point out that Monsanto's patent on glyphosate is expired, meaning they can't make royalty money off of it.....

So, what you are saying is that Monsanto is behind pushing the stories that glyphosate causes cancer, thus creating a push to eliminate it.  

Hey, what do you know, Monsanto has just developed a nice and patented replacement for it....

devil

Smells like DuPont and refrigerant 

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse UberDork
9/26/18 10:47 a.m.
Curtis said:

I'm kinda in the same place with GMOs

I don't have as much of an issue with Genetic Modification.  It all depends on what its done for, and how it's genetically modified.  We've been genetically modifying things for a long time.  

Genetically modifying something to be hardier in a certain climate, or to be resistant to certain pests, or grow larger fruit, those all seem like good things.  

Genetically modifying something so that it can withstand being sprayed with tons of pesticides, which kill beneficial insects and potentially cause harm to humans seems like it might be a problem.  

There's lots of corn fields around us, and Mrs. VCH and I noticed that all the corn seemed to die at a certain time.  I suspected they may have intentionally killed it; I see my suspicion was correct.  Terrific.  

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/26/18 12:05 p.m.

This is the kind of thing one needs to do to feed eight billion people.  

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
9/26/18 12:19 p.m.

I would be so bold as to say that a majority of human illness is directly caused by environmental toxins.  Chief among these would be the crap that we eat.  Much of this is a matter of making bad choices, eating too much, eating and drinking the wrong foods.  But some of it is much harder to avoid.  Pesticides in vegetables, unapproved antibiotics in imported farm-raised seafoods, preservatives added to virtually everything that comes off a store shelf.  You are going to get some of this stuff no matter how hard you try to avoid it.  People don't seem to care about it, because it takes a long time to kill you and the manufacturers do a good job of lobbying government to keep their products on the "Approved" list.  Look at how many years it took to (mostly) rid our food supply of partially hydrogenated oils (trans fat).  Hint: Over 100 years, the first several decades of which it enjoyed wide acceptance and was viewed as a modern "improvement."

https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm449162.htm  

bentwrench
bentwrench SuperDork
9/26/18 12:23 p.m.

This is the kind of thing one needs to do to maximize profit suppling ag products for eight billion people.

 

TIFTFY

 

ORGANIC is another that twists my chonies.

HaHaHaHaHaHa indeed, the organic farmers use more toxic methods than non-organic farmers.

Organic farmers also don't employ weed abatement, because it cuts into their profits.

This means the neighboring farms have to employ more aggressive tactics for weed control.

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