Apologies first. I'm an avid follower of hotlink thread and former contributor but these days I'm a silent lurker. I'll try to post more! The real issue: I've grown tired of my ls400 recently. Its been a flawless steed but my kids have grown a bit and some friends recently passed away before their time. I don't want to drive a beige automatic forever. I'd like to spend no new money so sell lexus and buy a manual fun car. I'm thinking saab, 3 series xr4to or such. Still needs 4 seats but coupe would do. Is this realistic? What might be another forgotten choice. Value needs to be on par with fair condition 1997 ls400 w/ 180k