914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/22/12 6:40 p.m.

Today was a crappy day for soaring so it was some guys hanging around swapping lies, doing BS maintence etc.; think Road Atlanta on a rainy day.

Ceiling was 1700 ft., grey, windy, closing in.

These two guys show up, giving rides we guessed. The trainer was wicked slower than the Mustang on take off. The Mustang did a nice low pass at speed with Godawful horsepower reverberating off the scenery. Unfortunately the batteries started croaking about the time he did the fly by.

Dayum. I couldn't afford to put gas in them!

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
9/22/12 7:40 p.m.

Ahhh yes, the Rolls/Packard Merlin, makin' a Lambo sound like a lawnmower since 1940. Great pics too, BTW.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/22/12 7:53 p.m.

The "trainer" looks like a Sky Raider, a ground attack aircraft. Both are wicked cool planes, especially flying!

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
9/22/12 8:12 p.m.

It's a T-28. They are kind of "big on purpose" so that they make good trainers for larger planes. A bit noisy and slow.

Here is a video with some good sounds. Production value is a bit questionable, but the sound is good. There are a few roundies' in here and also a bit of a Griffon engine also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmzPHbSYKvg&feature=player_embedded#!

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
9/22/12 8:32 p.m.

Regarding the T-28--almost 350mph is not all that slow...unless you're next to the P-51 I guess. Think about that--at the beginning of WW2, that is pretty good fighter speed...and by the end, that is trainer speed.

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
9/22/12 9:01 p.m.
Javelin wrote: The "trainer" looks like a Sky Raider, a ground attack aircraft. Both are wicked cool planes, especially flying!

Actually, you aren't that far off. The T-28 was used in a similar roll as the Skyraider by the VNAF during the early years in Vietnam.

Man I miss seeing these things. This: http://www.airzoo.org/ is about 15 miles away. Back about 10 years ago they would put up their Hellcat, Wildcat, Tigercat, Corsair and P-47 a couple Sundays a month. They would also host a warbird fly in that would usually draw a half dozen or more Mustangs, a Skyraider, a B-26, a handfull of B25's and a single seat Sea Fury in addition to their own collection. It was an absolute thing of beauty. You could get right up to the flight line, and come home with your hair a mess smelling like half burned av gas. Unfortunately, their insurance rates went absolutely through the roof 8 or 9 years ago and they pretty much quit flying their planes. About the same time, their fly in fell apart as well. They still have a spectacular static display (well worth it if you are ever in the area), but you really have to see and hear these things in flight to appreciate them.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
9/22/12 9:19 p.m.

I've been up in a T-28. Having a neighbor who is partner in a civil aviation airport - and who was a pilot for Flying Tigers "cargo" in the '80s - had advantages.

I had to wear the buttpack parachute and learn the bailout drill. We went to about 20k, so I had to wear the Top Gun helmet and O2 mask. He said "This is what we used to do in Nam" and proceeded to lay it over on its back and dive straight down the chimney of my parents' house from 15k down to about 750 feet in one dive. We flew out over the Chesapeake low enough to leave a wake, and up our front road low enough that I was looking straight out the side at the telephone wires. I got to fly it for a few minutes at a sane speed and altitude.

One of the best afternoons of my life.

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
9/22/12 10:09 p.m.

I once heard THAT noise while exploring the woods about half a mile from the airport. The local trade school was next to the runway and the aviation class must have been used a labor source for maintenance on a Mustang

I don't think I've ever run so hard in my life in trying to reach a vantage point over the field. When I got there, I couldn't catch my breath; the sounds from that plane made me forget to inhale.

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
9/23/12 2:40 a.m.

The reason for that noise is 5 cylinders go out one collector and 4 go out another on a T-28. Sounds cool to me.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
9/23/12 6:01 p.m.

God I miss flying. My trainer was a t-34, but my steed is a C-130. Been three years out of cockpit on a staff tour. I WILL be back. Nothing is like flying that big beautiful bastard at 50 ft over the ocean, below the bridge wing of most ships.

iceracer
iceracer UltraDork
9/23/12 6:10 p.m.

When I was an instructor in the Air Force, I would stand on the wing while a student went thru the run up procedure.

Now i wear hearing aids.

Still love that sound.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam UltraDork
9/24/12 3:19 a.m.

Mmmmmmmm P51. I've been lucky enough to hear one in person too. Not a sound anyone forgets easily.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/24/12 5:43 a.m.
914Driver wrote: Dayum. I couldn't afford to put gas in them!

Nor could I......I've been watching these LSA replicas of warbirds, though: http://www.warbirdreplicas.com/frmPhotoLibraries.aspx

They might be able to cook up some 3/4 replicas that a mere mortal could afford.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
9/24/12 9:28 a.m.

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current%20Inventory/N28BP%20North%20American%20T-28B.htm

T-28's are a relatively good buy for a surplus airplane. The one above is $95,000.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/24/12 9:28 a.m.
Duke wrote: I've been up in a T-28. Having a neighbor who is partner in a civil aviation airport - and who was a pilot for Flying Tigers "cargo" in the '80s - had advantages. I had to wear the buttpack parachute and learn the bailout drill. We went to about 20k, so I had to wear the Top Gun helmet and O2 mask. He said "This is what we used to do in Nam" and proceeded to lay it over on its back and dive straight down the chimney of my parents' house from 15k down to about 750 feet in one dive. We flew out over the Chesapeake low enough to leave a wake, and up our front road low enough that I was looking straight out the side at the telephone wires. I got to fly it for a few minutes at a sane speed and altitude. One of the best afternoons of my life.

Color me very jealous.

RossD
RossD UberDork
9/24/12 11:31 a.m.

I need to hang out at the EAA down in Oshkosh... with a couple hundreds in my pocket for fuel.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltraDork
9/24/12 11:44 a.m.

Used to be a million would buy a flying P-51.

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
9/24/12 2:25 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: Used to be a million would buy a flying P-51.

Can't confirm this, but I've read that in the military drawdown after WWII you could buy one for the value of the scrap metal in the plane and the av gas in the tanks.

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
9/24/12 3:47 p.m.

$500-$700-full fuel tanks.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
9/24/12 4:21 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed:

Meh, Mongo uses that much.

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
9/24/12 4:33 p.m.

No, that's what they were going for at the end of the war .

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
9/24/12 4:49 p.m.

God the noise that the P51 makes is absolutely unreal.

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