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Live Coverage of the Grassroots Motorsports $2017 Challenge

Want to follow along as the Grassroots Motorsports $2017 Challenge unfolds? You’ve come to the right place. Below you’ll find our live stream which will update automatically every time we broadcast.

So you know when to tune in, here’s a copy of the event schedule. Hint: Tune in all day on Friday and Saturday. We plan to start broadcasting at the top of every hour.


Having trouble with the live stream not displaying correctly? Head over to our YouTube channel to catch all the latest live coverage.

Thank you to CRC Industries and Miller Electric for continuing to support the Grassroots Motorsports $2017 Challenge.

Current Standings

Updated at 11:49 p.m. on October 20. These are the final autocross and drag standings. Concous (the final portion of the $2017 Challenge) begins tomorrow morning at 10:00 EST.

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Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/19/17 8:59 p.m.
JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
10/19/17 10:05 p.m.

Hit our Facebook page, too. Ultimately it's the only place where we'll be able to see real-time comments. We just don't have the manpower or bandwidth to monitor YouTube and forum traffic during broadcasts, so if you have something to say, best to throw in of FB and we'll try and get to it. I'll be walking around with my phone monitoring chat.

Plan is for 30 minutes on then 30 minutes off. Not sure if we'll stick to the top/bottom of the hour schedule, because it'll largely depend on event flow, but we'll go in hoping for that. Bottom like is watch our social feeds and we'll try to give you plenty of warning.

Sorry about tomorrow's productivity.

 

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltimaDork
10/20/17 6:08 a.m.

Thanks yall. Sending this to my wife so she can play along from home. Also, i hate the way i sound on video 

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/20/17 6:28 a.m.

How will the AutoX be filmed? Will it be saved? There are several cars where I would like to watch the whole run in its entirety but I won't be able to watch live. Thanks for doing this.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 7:35 a.m.

All broadcasts will be archived on our Facebook page and YouTube page to watch later. What particular cars do you want to see run? We'll be broadcasting action and interviews all day from grid, but we can try and make sure we broadcast complete runs from a car or two if you have a special request.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltimaDork
10/20/17 8:27 a.m.

Amc please for full runs

Willis
Willis New Reader
10/20/17 8:37 a.m.

"We can 3 wheel it now like snoop dog with a floor jack"

hahaha

SaltyDog
SaltyDog Reader
10/20/17 9:25 a.m.

Have you ever felt like all your friends were at a great party and you were stuck at work?

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/20/17 9:40 a.m.

In reply to Ed Higginbotham :

I'm dying to see the microvan

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 10:02 a.m.

We are so live.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 10:28 a.m.

I swear that spitfire was there before 2007.  

Or at least there was one in 2004 that looked just like it.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla MegaDork
10/20/17 10:39 a.m.

C10 and C1500 runs... must see them!

Bobzilla
Bobzilla MegaDork
10/20/17 10:58 a.m.

how sad is it that I have a repeating 30 minute timer I'm running to not miss this.

 

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy SuperDork
10/20/17 11:00 a.m.

I'd like to see Pat's Datsun do the full run.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 11:20 a.m.

Looks like a bit of a timing problem.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 11:26 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

Fixed!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 11:27 a.m.

I hope that RX7 gets fixed.  It looks like it should be fast.

 

Damn it, seeing that silver Miata makes we wonder about a blown Spider.  

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy SuperDork
10/20/17 11:52 a.m.

High School team currently in 3rd ?

 

Bravo!

Ed, Thanks for sharing.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 11:55 a.m.

Also worth noting: All three college teams are in the top 10 right now: Georgia Tech, Smith and Rowan.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 12:02 p.m.

the AMC!!!!!

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltimaDork
10/20/17 12:04 p.m.
Dusterbd13 said:

I hate the way i sound on video 

I hate the way I look on video and sound on audio.    

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 12:10 p.m.

Okay, here's the standings with all the cars double-checked. Look at all those Miatas!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 12:13 p.m.

The mini is pretty funny

 

Burrito
Burrito Dork
10/20/17 12:34 p.m.

We're going to need more information on the Subaru 360 Van.  Looked wicked from the drive-by in the distance. 

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 1:00 p.m.

Got a good video of the van. We’ll be live again in a couple minutes. After that I’ll post the video if another run isn’t caught by the live feed

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 1:02 p.m.

Van time!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 1:04 p.m.
Ed Higginbotham said:

Van time!

Great thinking.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 1:04 p.m.

Given Alan's comments- where's the Team eVil trophy now?

bigben
bigben Reader
10/20/17 1:26 p.m.

In reply to Ed Higginbotham :

I noticed the same thing. That's way too many Miatas. Maybe we need a cap on the number of Miata entries.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/17 1:29 p.m.
bigben said:

In reply to Ed Higginbotham :

I noticed the same thing. That's way too many Miatas. Maybe we need a cap on the number of Miata entries.

A better solution would be to try to get more people with other cars.  Capping entries is not really effective way to attract interest.

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy SuperDork
10/20/17 1:45 p.m.

Ed,

 

Any significant changes to the results?  How 'about an updated listing? Please.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 1:53 p.m.

Update on current standings! College and high school teams still doing work on autocross. Just about done with all the official autocross runs.

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy SuperDork
10/20/17 2:31 p.m.

Did Robbie get the Saabute up and running yet? (I sure hope he gets a run in)

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 2:50 p.m.

Not looking good for Robbie. I think they had to throw in the towel for the day.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 2:53 p.m.

Final autocross standings! Drags start at 6:00 p.m. EST

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 SuperDork
10/20/17 3:13 p.m.

When did the AMC run? I watched most of the autox live feed but I guess I missed it.

Way to go, DeadSkunk!

Justjim75
Justjim75 New Reader
10/20/17 3:19 p.m.

Fail inc!!

 

It's super cool to see the high school make a solid showing.  These are kids are our children and grandchildren age!

evildky
evildky SuperDork
10/20/17 3:36 p.m.

Wish I was there!

bigben
bigben Reader
10/20/17 3:49 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

It was a tongue in cheek comment. The number of Miata is actually very representative of entry lists at any of my local events. It would just be fun to see more variety.

bigben
bigben Reader
10/20/17 3:52 p.m.
evildky said:

Wish I was there!

Me too!

I think I'm going to console myself by ordering some parts for the unfinished Challenge car in my garage.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
10/20/17 4:13 p.m.

Smith College in 4th!!!!   Way to go!!!!!

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/20/17 4:36 p.m.

This is hurting me . I'm 2 hours from there and there no way I can do it. 

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
10/20/17 4:46 p.m.

I wish Roadkill would show up sometime, just so they could get beat by the parking lot build team.

Never mind the thrashing that the Nelsons or Pat, etc. could put on them.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 4:46 p.m.

Yeah, the Miatas are doing really well. We'll see how the drags affects things.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
10/20/17 5:20 p.m.

Looks like it'll be closer toa 7pm start for drags. Long line for dinner is slowing things down. Everyone is having a great time, though.

We'll be live again tonight from the drag strip. Watch Facebook and the live page here on the site for start times.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
10/20/17 5:33 p.m.

I love that an Insight is at the top of the rankings. Where can you go to see one win races?

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 6:07 p.m.

Drag Time! Andrew Nelson just ran a 9.5!

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
10/20/17 6:14 p.m.

Can someone make this thread a stickey???  At least for the next week or so. 

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo Mod Squad
10/20/17 6:17 p.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

Done. Meant to do that earlier and got distracted by racing videos. laugh

bigben
bigben Reader
10/20/17 6:52 p.m.
Ed Higginbotham said:

Drag Time! Andrew Nelson just ran a 9.5!

surprise Can someone there go check to make sure the laws of physics are not being violated? I would hate for the universe to impload because of a GRM event.

sleepyhead
sleepyhead HalfDork
10/20/17 8:52 p.m.

pretty sure the length of the nose of that car corrected any universe twisting that might have happened?

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 10:53 p.m.

Update! Autocross and drags are in the books! Ed Malle is sitting in first, with a tiny edge over Georgia Tech Wreck Racing and Patrick in the Datsun. It'll all come down to the concours tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/20/17 10:56 p.m.

Also, Andrew Nelson destroyed the record for the fastest drag run at any $2000 Challenge. This run was a 9.535-second blast, but he would eventually put down a 9.521-second run.

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Ffacebook%2Fvideos%2F10155860451043140%2F&width=500&show_text=false&height=281

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
10/20/17 11:51 p.m.
Ed Higginbotham said:

Update! Autocross and drags are in the books! Ed Malle is sitting in first, with a tiny edge over Georgia Tech Wreck Racing and Patrick in the Datsun. It'll all come down to the concours tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m.

You mean I have to be back at the track at 10?  Good thing I'm not a parking lot drinker.  

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/21/17 9:53 a.m.

Concours is underway! We’ll be live in a few. 

bigben
bigben Reader
10/21/17 10:38 a.m.
Patrick said:
Ed Higginbotham said:

Update! Autocross and drags are in the books! Ed Malle is sitting in first, with a tiny edge over Georgia Tech Wreck Racing and Patrick in the Datsun. It'll all come down to the concours tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m.

You mean I have to be back at the track at 10?  Good thing I'm not a parking lot drinker.  

Good luck! Your Datsun put down a well rounded performance. Congrats.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau HalfDork
10/21/17 10:42 a.m.

Only 1/3 cars went 15s or faster...does the field seem slow this year and more focused on autocross?

bigben
bigben Reader
10/21/17 10:45 a.m.

In reply to Ed Higginbotham :

Any chance you can post last year's dynamic stats for comparison?

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/21/17 10:49 a.m.

In reply to bigben :

I’m at the track right now and don’t have that on hand. Might dig it out when we’re back in the office. 

Jerry
Jerry UltraDork
10/21/17 11:08 a.m.

Just realized I haven't perused the forums since I got here. First challenge event, my first drag race ever last night. Got to drive in the Tire shootout. And meeting faces behind the names...

sleepyhead
sleepyhead HalfDork
10/21/17 11:09 a.m.

In reply to bigben :

here's the link to the full results:
2016 Challenge Full Results PDF

bigben
bigben Reader
10/21/17 11:27 a.m.

In reply to sleepyhead :

Thanks. Now I know how hard to kick myself for not making down with the Opel this year.

But it's been fun to watch from the sidelines. Thanks GRM for posting frequent updates.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/21/17 2:41 p.m.

Alright. The concours is over. The results are in. Winners will be announced at the banquet tonight at 7:00. We’ll be streaming it all live right here.

ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid Dork
10/21/17 4:43 p.m.

We will live at dinner tonight, fun.....

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/21/17 6:13 p.m.

Live stream for the banquet?

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/21/17 6:18 p.m.

We'll be live in a little bit. Banquet started a little late. 

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/21/17 6:22 p.m.

In reply to Ed Higginbotham :

Thank you Ed.

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
10/21/17 6:55 p.m.

Hope it ain't the Nazis

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Digital Experience Director
10/21/17 7:19 p.m.
mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/21/17 7:36 p.m.

I'd like to know just how ratty a 2005 300c is to make budget. 

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
10/21/17 7:39 p.m.

In reply to mndsm :

It, um, was used for nefarious things and was bought via police impound auction.

they dropped 550lbs out of it and in the process they found signs of its past life.

sleepyhead
sleepyhead HalfDork
10/21/17 7:58 p.m.
Stefan said:

In reply to mndsm :

It, um, was used for nefarious things and was bought via police impound auction.

they dropped 550lbs out of it and in the process they found signs of its past life.

seems to be a growing theme in late-model challenge acquisition

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
10/21/17 8:53 p.m.

Final results are posted! Thanks for following along, everyone. Hope to see even more of you out here next year!

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
10/21/17 8:56 p.m.
mndsm said:

I'd like to know just how ratty a 2005 300c is to make budget. 

Salvage title, drug paraphernalia, sketchy repairs.

dropstep
dropstep SuperDork
10/21/17 9:09 p.m.

Really enjoyed the live coverage, was the high point of this week. That white rampage is clean! Was really hoping to see the white datsun run a 10! 

GSmith
GSmith HalfDork
10/21/17 9:28 p.m.

I saw the build book on the 300c. Impressive find.

yeah, it's legit. Police auction, and see the earlier note about it.

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy SuperDork
10/21/17 10:07 p.m.

Pat, Congratulations on the Top Three finish!

 

Well done!

 

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/21/17 10:17 p.m.
sleepyhead said:
Stefan said:

In reply to mndsm :

It, um, was used for nefarious things and was bought via police impound auction.

they dropped 550lbs out of it and in the process they found signs of its past life.

seems to be a growing theme in late-model challenge acquisition

That makes total sense. I know that any of them that haven't been seized are worth more than that here, regardless of age 

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
10/22/17 12:35 a.m.
dropstep said:

Really enjoyed the live coverage, was the high point of this week. That white rampage is clean! Was really hoping to see the white datsun run a 10! 

Suspect burned valve, was popping out intake on deceleration.  Best et was 12.01@114.  Typically the car traps at 122.5-123.  It's an ungodly high mile engine that I've run gobs of nitrous through.  Datsun is retired from challenge duty and will get proper medical attention starting with compression and leakdown tests, followed most likely by heads/cam if a valve is the culprit.  

chknhwk
chknhwk HalfDork
10/22/17 4:58 a.m.

Congratulations on everybody that ran and even just showed up!

 

dropstep
dropstep SuperDork
10/22/17 5:10 a.m.
Patrick said:
dropstep said:

Really enjoyed the live coverage, was the high point of this week. That white rampage is clean! Was really hoping to see the white datsun run a 10! 

Suspect burned valve, was popping out intake on deceleration.  Best et was 12.01@114.  Typically the car traps at 122.5-123.  It's an ungodly high mile engine that I've run gobs of nitrous through.  Datsun is retired from challenge duty and will get proper medical attention starting with compression and leakdown tests, followed most likely by heads/cam if a valve is the culprit.  

Just from your old build thread and interview i knew it was your goal. I understand how violent nitrous is, let alone on an engine with that mileage. I always pick a favorite for anything i watch. Your datsun was my choice this year.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/22/17 8:07 a.m.
Patrick said:
dropstep said:

Really enjoyed the live coverage, was the high point of this week. That white rampage is clean! Was really hoping to see the white datsun run a 10! 

Suspect burned valve, was popping out intake on deceleration.  Best et was 12.01@114.  Typically the car traps at 122.5-123.  It's an ungodly high mile engine that I've run gobs of nitrous through.  Datsun is retired from challenge duty and will get proper medical attention starting with compression and leakdown tests, followed most likely by heads/cam if a valve is the culprit.  

Your comments during the autocross about the engine was pretty funny.  Very used engine, "Was it rebuilt?"- "well, since it has different head castings from side to side, I assume so.  But it will take a nitrous shot all day long...."  

If there ever was a sound quite that should be in the magazine, that's one of them.  Classic.  

Sorry to hear that it was having problems.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/22/17 8:13 a.m.

Man, looking at those scores....  Maybe I need to send an email to my friend in Ohio.

Except it would largely be a repeat of what we did before.  Just a little more of it.   Almost DM or EM car.

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
10/22/17 9:28 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

This year's goal was top 5, I'm thrilled with the swan song of the Datsun.  FYI i went back through my first run(after track was oiled and i had to back out and pedal it) and know when i hurt it.  It's all good.  3rd overall/3rd dynamic is what this car was built for.  It did everything at a high level, now i can put real(ls6) heads on it and go for my 10 second pass locally.  

Next year we bring the nuclear warhead 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
10/22/17 11:47 a.m.

The on line broadcasts were great!!!!  Thanks so much to all of you that made that happen.  I now have a much better understanding of the event and now more than ever want to come down.  In short it has made the bucket list!!!  

coexist
coexist Reader
10/22/17 12:15 p.m.

For the record:

70's Zcar  > Miata. 

Twice

 

 

 

 

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
10/22/17 2:23 p.m.
coexist said:

For the record:

70's Zcar  > Miata. 

Twice

 

 

 

 

Well actually, 5 times in the autocross, but I'm not counting wink

i know what my answer is, miata is not it.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
10/22/17 2:30 p.m.

Miata is the easy button to do well in the autocross, not that easy to make win the overall.

 

KGMonteith
KGMonteith
10/22/17 3:10 p.m.

It'll be interesting to see what shows up next year, with all of the flood cars from Irma and Harvey hitting CoPart auctions.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/22/17 5:16 p.m.
MrJoshua said:

Miata is the easy button to do well in the autocross, not that easy to make win the overall.

 

The real question is how willing one is to tear a car apart.  The more you take it apart, the faster it will be.  Or the more you make it a DM or EM car, the more likely you will win.  

But that really tears a car up.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
10/22/17 6:12 p.m.
alfadriver said:
MrJoshua said:

Miata is the easy button to do well in the autocross, not that easy to make win the overall.

 

The real question is how willing one is to tear a car apart.  The more you take it apart, the faster it will be.  Or the more you make it a DM or EM car, the more likely you will win.  

But that really tears a car up.

I have some thoughts about that after looking at most of the builds. The majority of the fast cars are way down the rabbit hold of mod cars or even more,

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
10/22/17 7:24 p.m.
Patrick said:Next year we bring the nuclear warhead 

 

Trying and failing to find a screenshot of Nik Blackhurst grinning after saying something silly.

 

 

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
10/22/17 7:28 p.m.
Patrick said:
mndsm said:

I'd like to know just how ratty a 2005 300c is to make budget. 

Salvage title, drug paraphernalia, sketchy repairs.

 

Can you sell any crack you find and apply that to the budget?

 

(of course I'm not serious)

ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid Dork
10/22/17 8:33 p.m.

Can anyone tell me where in the live brodcasts on friday for the autocross the Subby wagon was sighted on screen i hope? 

Also did it show up for the two passes late in the night after fixing a flat tire in the drags? I know it was after the black missles 2nd pass.

And did anyone catch my interveiw with JG about my car and point to the video and times please.

I had a blast this weekend even though I had the worst car for the car show and over all. But it did get the longest drive award and its the 2nd times she has been to the dance.

Congrats to everyone on winning and thanks to the staff for putting on a great event and I did go over and thanked the staff at the track on sat afternoon for hosting us. They love putting this on also.

GTXVette
GTXVette Dork
10/23/17 7:39 a.m.

In reply to ckosacranoid :

All things considered, the Scooby doo had a couple Issues, No clutch release  resulting in Push Starting, an issue with steering  resulting in a 5 MPH scrap with the Wall, some braking snafu's,  But no Flat tires Thankfully. Imagine what next year may be, with a 4 second 60 ft. it went 16.5 ish at 87 MPH.  they will get the Handle down pat so the 40's auto cross time should drop also.   Saulgood racing, Joe and Jamie, Rock on!

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
10/23/17 11:18 a.m.

Great times out there! I'm still sort of recovering and getting my pics together to post about my $2017 experience. Thanks to all! 

SaulGoode
SaulGoode New Reader
10/23/17 11:44 a.m.

In reply to GTXVette :

Thank you for the kind words.  Don't forget about our awesome fuel pressure regulator (a highly calibrated hose clamp on the return line).  We have a year to get everything worked out.  We knew it would be quick, but just had to guess, as we did not get it to pull under its own power until it was on its way to tech.  Thank you very much for your help in the pits.  A special thank you goes out as well to Bruce Howard, Jonny Pruitt, Leslie Burchett, Stan Dorsey, Kurt Hennard, Justin Bragan, John Hoopes, Jamey Whitt, and Shelly Whitt.  Without all of you, this would not have happened.  The help provided in the pits was fantastic, and the constant berating on our group chat was encouragement to get it done.  

A very special thank you goes out to Andrew Nelson.  What a classy guy.  The entire reason for our build was that I threw the gauntlet down to him at last years challenge.  He brought his "A" game, and we brought our "C" game.  But even after all of the trash that was talked, Andrew still took time to answer my questions and offer encouragement throughout this past year.  My hat is off to you, Sir.

Next year is a big year.  The BIG 2-0!!  Everybody bring something cool.  It is going to be an EPIC year!!!

Jerry
Jerry UltraDork
10/23/17 3:28 p.m.

I'm pretty sure I saw 1970's Farrah Fawcett in the hotel lobby. Anyone else?

GTXVette
GTXVette Dork
10/23/17 4:56 p.m.

yes, that was her. Lol

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
10/23/17 7:54 p.m.

In reply to Jerry :

Yep, saw her too. 

ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid Dork
10/24/17 7:52 p.m.

Just got home this morning just after driveling all day and night from doing the Tail of the Dragon and stopped in to have a very late dinner with my aunt in Evansville, IN. Then run north and got home did not bother unpacking or unloading the car. checked a couple of things and the died to around 4pm when I got up and uploaded phtotos from the run.

VWguyBruce
VWguyBruce Dork
10/24/17 8:02 p.m.
Knurled said: Can you sell any crack you find and apply that to the budget?

(of course I'm not serious)

Yes, but it would count against your recoup total. All crack smokers are not bad, some do it recreationally. 

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Dork
10/24/17 8:44 p.m.
VWguyBruce said:
Knurled said: Can you sell any crack you find and apply that to the budget?

(of course I'm not serious)

Yes, but it would count against your recoup total. All crack smokers are not bad, some do it recreationally. 

Actually I found a vintage grateful dead one hitter in my c4 purchase that I sold for $20...and did include in my recoup.

GTXVette
GTXVette Dork
10/25/17 7:04 a.m.

In reply to ckosacranoid :

Damn you had to go within 1/4 mile from my House, if you drove up 575, well next time. I live where 575 becomes 515.

ckosacranoid
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10/29/17 9:22 a.m.
GTXVette said:

In reply to ckosacranoid :

Damn you had to go within 1/4 mile from my House, if you drove up 575, well next time. I live where 575 becomes 515.

Let me know and next time I will try to stop over to say hello. But anyway, belated wave as a drove by.

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