Bringing the professionals’ tricks to the clubman racer

Per
By Per Schroeder
Dec 1, 2024 | Mazda, Mazda Miata, spec miata | Posted in Features | From the June 2008 issue | Never miss an article

Photography by Per Schroeder

[Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the June 2008 issue of Grassroots Motorsports.]

You can hear the whines all across the country each weekend as racers struggle to wrap their minds—and fragile self-esteems—around the fact that they just got beat. A serious whupping can prompt a lot of justifications and excuses, as well as a bit of secretive research on …

This content is available for GRM+ members and Grassroots Motorsports magazine subscribers only.

You can read it for free in 168 days or subscribe to GRM+ to read right now.

Subscribe now

Already a member?

Login to read

Join Free Join our community to easily find more Mazda, Mazda Miata and spec miata articles.
Comments
BluEvo210
BluEvo210 New Reader
1/21/12 4:10 p.m.

This article is great!

Not only was it informative, I posted a link to it on an Evo forum where some folks are trying to convince me to cheat.

Matt Huffman
Matt Huffman New Reader
2/27/15 6:35 a.m.

Awesome article. should be mandatory reading for all motorsports competitors.

Tom1200
Tom1200 Reader
2/27/15 8:37 p.m.

Many years ago I had the eye opening experience of racing against Alex Gurney in showroom stock at an SCCA regional. Both cars were good natioanl level cars I was "only" three tenths slower (do the math it's 3.5 seconds back at the end) the difference was easy to spot. About twice a lap I would skate the car a bit to much in comparison; we're taking inches, on the last corner there was a slight hump on entry, if you were perfect you could brake as the car settled, if not perfect you'd lose half a car length. It didn't take me long to figure out that my lack of seat time (I only did 2-3 races a year) was half the battle. The comment in the article about the Schmoes car revised set up being fast but difficult to be consistent comes to mind. Many of us can turn fast laps but doing 12 laps on the same tenth the way top tier drivers do would be a big ask. The other thing I liked was it also highlighted the differences in clubbie and pros........pro teams spend all thier time talking set up, while regional drivers spend time talking about technique.............two weeks ago I ran the Datsun at my local track in a vintage race. I got my pal who's a real mechanic to take pity on me and help me out during Friday practice. I also put a fresh set of Hoosiers on the car instead of the usual take offs, the car also had a fresh motor in it instead of the tired thing I ran last year.................with a crisp motor, a proper set of tires and small set up adjustments I picked up 8 seconds on a 3 mile course. Now the new motor is up 25 horsepower but that ain't worth 8 seconds.

 Tom
Driven5
Driven5 HalfDork
2/27/15 10:54 p.m.

A great read! Having had the pleasure of meeting Jason a few times over the years, I always enjoy seeing things that his name pops up in. You couldn't have much better of a pro.

ronholm
ronholm Dork
2/27/15 11:28 p.m.

Great Article!

I have in the last couple years raced sailboats... The same thing applies there. The guys in the middle or the back of the fleets (me) are always looking for some way to tinker with something, some string to pull or anything they can do to change something on the boat to make it faster. The guys at the top just sail away.. So you think that kind of stuff is bad racing cars.. Try it when the power source is constantly changing. The leaders just run off and hide. In sailing the most important thing is the nut on the tiller. It has to be right.

I love the life lessons learned while racing.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
2/28/15 6:10 a.m.

Great article. Probably one of the best I've read in a long time.
The autocross flip side to this is to find the fast guy/girl locally and ask them to take a lap in your car. Even when I think I'm doing well and competing against the local guys in my class, a national jacket holder always seems to be able to find 2 seconds hiding on course.

fornetti14
fornetti14 GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/28/15 7:47 a.m.

Holy bumpin' old thread!
Having a hot shoe drive your car is a great idea.
It shows the speed to be gained in seat time, not throwing more mod money at the car.
(and I miss seeing Per post here)

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
2/28/15 7:52 a.m.

I've done that with my car at a track with which I'm very familiar … 2 1/2 sec quicker … the tiny shriveled acorns I have dangling between my legs has a lot to do with the difference in speed

84FSP
84FSP Reader
2/28/15 7:54 a.m.

Always a harrowing experience to get owned in your own car. I find it really useful to watch them on course. Just as useful in autox is the ridealong with the pro in the passenger seat to talk thru what can be better.

Durty
Durty New Reader
3/1/15 11:23 a.m.

I'm really glad this article got shared on facebook. I like the new vintage article recirculation. This was a great idea for a test and I can't wait to get back on track.

You'll need to log in to post.

Our Preferred Partners
auYP069RHIO3n5c6j0GdjOtJo1R1UHI2rnw5Wg8SCibjL1KfwxIE8ctD1kURXvel