...that the answer is Miata. 
...that the answer is Miata.
HAHA, wow, just when I thought a Miata couldn't get more flaming.... 
Raze wrote: HAHA, wow, just when I thought a Miata couldn't get more flaming....
Now that there is funny. I don't care who you are.
+1 for whoever threw that Molotov.
Don't the kids of London know that the Miata isn't old British sportscar that their Grandpa made? It just looks like one. There's no need to burn it to the ground. Unless someone used some old Lucas parts in it and that's why it burned to the ground.
Saw it this morning on CNN
those numbnuts just don't know how lucky they are to be doing that stuff in Yurp and not here...
stroker wrote: those numbnuts just don't know how lucky they are to be doing that stuff in Yurp and not here...
You mean on this forum?
stroker wrote: those numbnuts just don't know how lucky they are to be doing that stuff in Yurp and not here...
I've been contemplating that all day but I think you're forgetting the comparison isn't equal. Their police have guns while their citizens for the most part do not. Therefore the citizenry has little it can do without meeting the rioters on their own terms. I am reminded of the LA Riot videos where shop owners took up arms when Police had to retreat from certain areas and there were more or less gun battles in the streets. Given most rioters weren't well armed and the shop owners were, they could more or less stand up to a mob single handedly.
Then again, maybe shop owners are getting ready: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-shakers/sports/ref=zg_bsms_tab considering 9 out of the top 10 items selling on Amazon UK are baseball bats...
Well, even the police in the UK mostly doesn't have guns, it's only some special units that have firearms. It certainly wasn't "regular" police that shot the guy in the first place, unless something's changed radically since last year.
None of the shop owners or bystanders will have been legally armed unless they're a member of parliament for Northern Ireland IIRC (there are/were some exemptions that if you were a member of Parliament from NI, you were allowed to carry concealed, but that might only have applied to NI). A farmer can get a shotgun, but that's pretty much it. If you're a competitive shooter, the guns will have to be locked up at the gun club, no way to take them home. Most of this draconian anti-gun legislation is due to someone shooting up a school in Dunblane a couple of decades ago.
It's still not that hard to get a gun (especially in London) if you know where to look, but the penalties for possession of even an unloaded gun are draconian (either 5 or 7 years in slammer minimum IIRC) and go up by a sizable number of years if you also have ammo. Even ammo alone is worth about 5 years IIRC.
So basically, none of the small shop owners would keep a shotgun under the register.
And yes, funnily enough, in the poor areas (like Tottenham, Lewisham or Peckham), the fifteen year old "gangsta" from the UK equivalent of the projects will have a gun. Can't shoot for toffee either, so that ensures maximum mayhem and injury of innocent bystanders.
Raze wrote:stroker wrote: those numbnuts just don't know how lucky they are to be doing that stuff in Yurp and not here...I am reminded of the LA Riot videos where shop owners took up arms when Police had to retreat from certain areas and there were more or less gun battles in the streets.
I had a classmate who's family were among the Korean American shop owners who had to do that.
Raze wrote: Then again, maybe shop owners are getting ready: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-shakers/sports/ref=zg_bsms_tab considering 9 out of the top 10 items selling on Amazon UK are baseball bats...
That is how it went down in the UK:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023932/London-riots-2011-Theresa-May-rules-tough-action-vigilantes-defend-shops.html
Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London. As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties. In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks. One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.' Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight. As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach. She said: 'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023932/London-riots-2011-Theresa-May-rules-tough-action-vigilantes-defend-shops.html#ixzz1UYzxBxk8
On Shacklewell Lane, the Turkish community was hailed across Twitter as being the force which saved the area from wanton destruction. After a single-deck bus was burned out, stick-wielding shopkeepers chased away a gang of youngsters before standing defiant in the face of further violence. One, who would not give his name, said: 'We beat up four of them quite badly and they ran off.' Another said: 'This is not justice, coming here and trying to attack us.' In testament to the men's bravery, several businesses on the street remained open as usual, unlike other areas where shopkeepers had heeded police advice to shut their doors early. Guardian reporter Paul Lewis described the scenes on Kingsland Road, Hackney, as Turkish men clashed with youths, tweeting: 'Kingsland Road chaotic as Turkish men attack other, predominantly black, youths with sticks, metal barricades and bricks.' In a further tweet Mr Lewis quoted a man carrying a stick as saying: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.' South of the river in Tooting, near to Clapham, where high streets were ravaged, Asian shopkeepers shut up early and stood guard outside their stores with their relatives to protect them. A local resident, who asked not to be named, said: 'With no police on the streets, it could've been a free-for-all for criminals. I'm so relieved it didn't kick off round here last night. If it had kicked off I dread to think what would have happened.' Meanwhile, in Clapham, residents accused the police of 'doing nothing' to stop opportunistic looters pillaging the area's high street. Shops including department Debenhams were stripped bare by rioters who arrived in cars which they filled with whatever items they could steal. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023932/London-riots-2011-Theresa-May-rules-tough-action-vigilantes-defend-shops.html#ixzz1UZ0CfECl
It's the Daily Maul though, don't use that as your only UK news source.
Raze wrote: ... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-shakers/sports/ref=zg_bsms_tab considering 9 out of the top 10 items selling on Amazon UK are baseball bats...
The batton in #1 place is up 48,621% for sales!
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